California Bans Sale of Energy-Guzzling Plasma TVs

[ragged]

http://www.reuters.com/article/mnEnergy/idUS421662684320091119

Starting 2011.

 

[jostenmeat]

http://www.reuters.com/article/mnEnergy/idUS421662684320091119

Starting 2011.

OK, whew, plasmas aren't banned, they just need to be more efficient, which is fine by me. So, these regs are imposed on the displays up to 58", but what about beyond that size?

I knew something was strange about banning plasmas altogether. I just couldn't see that happening.

 

[bandphan]

And Its not limited to plasmas All displays under 58" are the target. The target numbers are going to be very tough. Larger displays are said to make up too small of a percentage of the market therefore will not be regulated.

Under the rules adopted Wednesday, all new 42-inch TV sets must use less than 183 watts by 2011 and less than 116 watts by 2013.

That is considerably more efficient than flat-screen TVs placed on the market in recent years. A 42-inch Hitachi plasma TV sold in 2007 uses 313 watts, while a 42-inch Sharp Liquid-crystal display, or LCD, TV draws 232 watts, according to the Energy Commission.

The energy commission previously set aggressive energy-efficiency standards for refrigerators, washing machines and other household appliances, paving the way for more efficient models sold nationwide.

 

[ragged]

Yes, yes, the first line of the news report says the regs are for all tv's up to 58", but I figured the headline would be an attention grabber

 

[bandphan]

Yes, yes, the first line of the news report says the regs are for all tv's up to 58", but I figured the headline would be an attention grabber

Dont give the videophiles a heart attack This measure is set to be scrutinized by a large number of retailers and manufacturers because of the compliance time table.

 

[jamie2112]

This is not a bad thing IMO.........

 

[tcarcio]

I changed my lightbulbs and I have energy efficient appliances so leave my F'n HT alone.........

 

[jostenmeat]

I think I have a solution for the manufacturers!

Sell us the TVs as pre-calibrated!!

Last year's 42" 80u consumes 260.18 watts at the default setting.

After CNET calibration, it consumes 190.53 watts.

That's just 7.5w off the target, and I might assume that this year is better, and the next year might be further improved.

How's that sound to you guys?


seriously... I checked out some TVs on a friend's behalf very recently, and the 65" V10 was on mega scorch mode . . .

 

[bandphan]

Sell us the TVs as pre-calibrated!!

Last year's 42" 80u consumes 260.18 watts at the default setting.

After CNET calibration, it consumes 190.53 watts.

That's just 7.5w off the target, and I might assume that this year is better, and the next year might be further improved.

How's that sound to you guys?

Instead of pre-calibration, require calibration after the sale

 

[lsiberian]

Sell us the TVs as pre-calibrated!!

Last year's 42" 80u consumes 260.18 watts at the default setting.

After CNET calibration, it consumes 190.53 watts.

That's just 7.5w off the target, and I might assume that this year is better, and the next year might be further improved.

How's that sound to you guys?


seriously... I checked out some TVs on a friend's behalf very recently, and the 65" V10 was on mega scorch mode . . .

You are on to something. They can easily meet this standard if that's the case.

 

[tcarcio]

How about we start to work on making our delivery systems more efficient and like I said "Leave my HT alone"http://www.galvinpower.org/resources/galvin.php?id=28

 

[MidnightSensi]

Or why don't they just keep the default mode configured so that it meets the requirement, and then just make it really easy (like, change the mode to "best picture") to get it back to where it should be as a default. Then put it a lot of warnings of how you should keep it below this certain power rating.

Kind of like on aftermarket lcd headunits: They don't let you program the gps or watch movies while driving, but they make it really easy to defeat the safety feature by just grounding an obvious wire.

 

[jostenmeat]

Instead of pre-calibration, require calibration after the sale

Right, good point. I'm sure it would be a half-baked calibration anyways, and then you have different sources, room conditions, and quicker phosphor wear in the beginning.

Just getting rid of the scorch mode will obviously make the targets much easier to hit, and I think it will be a boon to consumers anyways.

Do you know what the target wattage ratings are for the other sizes?

The way I see it, worst case scenario, just buy the 65".

 

[Alex2507]

The way I see it, worst case scenario, just buy the 65".

I'm surprised you didn't suggest getting an 8' tall screen for viewing from 4' away.

 

[jostenmeat]

I'm surprised you didn't suggest getting an 8' tall screen for viewing from 4' away.

. . . . . . . . . . .

The way I see it, worst case scenario, just [strike]buy the 65"[/strike] get an 8' tall screen and sit 4' away.

 

[ragged]

Or how about banning big box retailers from setting their displays on torch mode. I think that would make a difference in power consumption.