Health care Solution- get rid of all republicans.

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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Not in a manner that makes a meaningful difference to his point. What about health insurance makes it impossible to be run as a non-profit?
Well, since you've obviously got some ideas on how to accomplish this, you're certainly willing to try to talk all the people living off the profits into going non-profit.

...good luck.

For what it's worth, genius, all those "insurances" mentioned in my example are "for profit" companies. d'oh! :D
 
Jed M

Jed M

Full Audioholic
The majority of the people working in health care will keep their existing jobs. Its not like going non-profit means we won't have health care. It will basically just effect the people at the very top. How would I handle it? Probably the same way they deny me my one time aciphex prescription for my $600 a month policy or the millions of people whose legitimate claims are denied, with a letter that tells them to essentially go F themselves.

Seriously though, business models change for progress. If we lived under the notion that we can't move forward because somebody will lose their profits we would still be using the pony express and driving horse and buggies. Yeah, it is too bad that the inventor of the 8 track isn't profiting anymore, but the public at large is much better off now. I don't care who runs the non profit, but the health care for profit model just doesn't work. There is not enough money to pay for our health care needs and profits also, and right now our health care is losing at the expense of profits. That is not right and it is bankrupting us.
 
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NicolasKL

Full Audioholic
Well, since you've obviously got some ideas on how to accomplish this, you're certainly willing to try to talk all the people living off the profits into going non-profit.

...good luck.
Four words: government run health care.
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
You're funny. There's more corruption in Medicare and Medicaid than you can imagine. I'm surprised that one as all-knowing as yourself didn't realize that.
Which medicade and medicare would that be? Humanacare? Aetna's Medicare? United's medicare?

Perhaps, if there's corruption, rather than tossing the baby with the bath-water: we should work to get rid of the corruption.

Or do you believe private industry (AIG, Enron, Arthur Anderson, Bektel, the RIAA, Haliburton, etc) are more well run / honest / philanthropic?
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
Mine is provided by work and it serves me quite well, thank you.
It's interesting that your link starts with the private companies Haliburton and Bektel loosing $25billion.

But apples to apples comparisons might make more sense. Perhaps governmental emplioyee IRS agents vs private subcontractors?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101558116

We could look at California's attempts at deregulating power, or we could look at private-owned prisons, or we could look at how efficiently companies like Haliburton move fuel in Iraq compared to the millitary doing the same.

Though I'd think we would do best to look at the other first-world western democracies. Every one has universal healthcare. Every one has cheaper healthcare than us. Most have better healthcare to boot.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
It's interesting that your link starts with the private companies Haliburton and Bektel loosing $25billion.

But apples to apples comparisons might make more sense. Perhaps governmental emplioyee IRS agents vs private subcontractors?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101558116

We could look at California's attempts at deregulating power, or we could look at private-owned prisons, or we could look at how efficiently companies like Haliburton move fuel in Iraq compared to the millitary doing the same.

Though I'd think we would do best to look at the other first-world western democracies. Every one has universal healthcare. Every one has cheaper healthcare than us. Most have better healthcare to boot.
Stop it Jerry. Too much logic and rationale in your arguments! You must argue based on personal biased opinions and self-serving skewing of perspectives! Come on, the value "As long as I'm doing well, f*ck everyone else" is Americanism at its best. ;)
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Stop it Jerry. Come on, the value "As long as I'm doing well, f*ck everyone else" is Americanism at its best. ;)
Says the man who proudly says works for the government and wants to run for office in order to preserve his benefits...
 
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