NHT and Audioquest cables

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Boerd

Full Audioholic
Today I went on the NHT website www.nhthifi.com and I just couldn't believe what I saw!
They sell Audioquest cables. Ouch !!! To me NHT used to be one of the most "honest" audio company - no snake oil.
Now they jumped on the snake oil bandwagon with the "snake oil audio" champion - Audioquest.
As a NHT gear owner to say I am dissapointed is an understatement.
I own a NHT XD 2.2 active system and I am really happy with it. You can read positive reviews about this NHT product:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31703
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56455
and other positive review about NHT speakers.

There are so many honest cable makers - (Cobalt Cable, Blue Jeans Cable, Monster Cable, etc) - why would they go with Audioquest?
Anyway - enough ranting, I am interested in your take on this.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I don't see why it makes a difference if they rep someone else's cables or not. Business is about making money, so if they want to compete, then they need to sell products.
 
Wannabubble

Wannabubble

Junior Audioholic
There are so many honest cable makers - (Cobalt Cable, Blue Jeans Cable, Monster Cable, etc) - why would they go with Audioquest?
Anyway - enough ranting, I am interested in your take on this.
Monster Cable? Cobalt Cable? I cant believe you are grouping them with BJC! Monster has just as much snake oil as Audioquest. And Cobalt has some questionable claims.
 
zhimbo

zhimbo

Audioholic General
There are so many honest cable makers - (Cobalt Cable, Blue Jeans Cable, Monster Cable, etc) - why would they go with Audioquest?
Anyway - enough ranting, I am interested in your take on this.
Monster? Really?

ETA: I owe Wannabubble a beer, I guess.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
LMAO, I didn't even catch that. Monster HONEST? That is the freaking funniest thing I've heard in years.
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
at least audioquest cables are well made.. over priced yes but good cables.. I dont think personally that monster is even well made..
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
at least audioquest cables are well made.. over priced yes but good cables.. I dont think personally that monster is even well made..
Lots of cables are 'well' made. :D How well, what is the min for it to be a 'well' cable can be debated though. :D
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
..

There are so many honest cable makers - (Cobalt Cable, Blue Jeans Cable, Monster Cable, etc) - why would they go with Audioquest?
Anyway - enough ranting, I am interested in your take on this.
I wasn't going to post after reading the others but 'honest' and Monster just cannot be in the same sentence. ;):D

By the way, yes, it is hard to fathom NHT doing it. Had to be a business decision only.
Similar to Mapleshade pushing their voodoo cables.
 
B

Boerd

Full Audioholic
I wasn't going to post after reading the others but 'honest' and Monster just cannot be in the same sentence. ;):D

By the way, yes, it is hard to fathom NHT doing it. Had to be a business decision only.
Similar to Mapleshade pushing their voodoo cables.

OK - point taken - I will take out Monster Cable from the list... Ooops - I actualy can't do that anymore (Ican't edit the original post anymore).
The point I was trying to get around is that a company with honest products and prices teamed up with the exponent of the snake oil cable industry. BAD!
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
its a market that can not be ignored, whether you agree with it or not. But it woudl be cool if they went to something like a bjc and had them branded as NHT cables.
 
B

Boerd

Full Audioholic
Monster Cable? Cobalt Cable? I cant believe you are grouping them with BJC! Monster has just as much snake oil as Audioquest. And Cobalt has some questionable claims.
Ok - got the point with Monster cables BUT Cobalt cables at least have decent prices.
 
B

Boerd

Full Audioholic
its a market that can not be ignored, whether you agree with it or not. But it woudl be cool if they went to something like a bjc and had them branded as NHT cables.
I cannot agree with you more - decently priced speakers of good quality made by NHT will rather be paired with decently priced cables.
What is NHT thinking? Would I pair 800$ speakers with 500$ cables? No way.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
They're thinking they are trying to get their foothold back in the market and this may help them out. They don't make the cables nor do they make claims about them, but as mentioned, it is just business.

I use AQ interconnects but I shop around and get them for good prices :) Everything else I get from BlueJeans.
 
B

Boerd

Full Audioholic
They're thinking they are trying to get their foothold back in the market and this may help them out. They don't make the cables nor do they make claims about them, but as mentioned, it is just business.

I use AQ interconnects but I shop around and get them for good prices :) Everything else I get from BlueJeans.
Thanks.
I just can't swallow their claims and prices. Let's say I'd get over the snake oil if they were priced decently but these guys (AudioQuest) are shameless - you can buy 20k$ cable from them !!! Decently priced speakers sold buy NHT will NOT be paired with 800$ cables from AQ. My 2c
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I agree, their higher lines are just $$$ in their eyeballs to me. Their construction and customer support is very good, but beyond the "welded" (fused) RCAs, nothing else they claim really means anything to me. Any interconnect with a battery connected to it is fluff to me. I get some from a wholesaler who sells them for about $65/pr for 1M. I had an issue with one where it was clear the connector disconnected from the cable and they replaced it free of charge, no questions asked.
 
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mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
...The point I was trying to get around is that a company with honest products and prices teamed up with the exponent of the snake oil cable industry. BAD!
Yes, very bad indeed:D
 
Wannabubble

Wannabubble

Junior Audioholic
Ok - got the point with Monster cables BUT Cobalt cables at least have decent prices.
That is true. And the are some good looking cables. :cool: I dont think it's that crazy to buy cables for how they look.

ETA: I owe Wannabubble a beer, I guess.
I'll take a Dos Equis :D
 
njedpx3

njedpx3

Audioholic General
Even Cobalt cables are overpriced

Ok - got the point with Monster cables BUT Cobalt cables at least have decent prices.
Actually Cobalt cables are over priced!

Many discussions of cables in the past on Audioholcs, but the bottom line is that copper is copper and there are very few qualities that can be changed.

The qualities that affect audio : resistance and end connectors.

Resistance: normally, 14 gauge wire will handle any speaker run up to 50ft. Many people use 12 or even 10 gauge wire but that is overkill.

Connectors: are a moot point unless you have a very cheap cable or broken connections or connectors not securely and eletrically fastened: example: cold solder joint, improperly tightened banana plug, etc. If you are making your own, tin bare wire or use locking banana connectors. Make sure you don't have any stray braided wire whiskers.

Excellent, quality, inexpensive cables can be purchased at Monoprice.com or if you want to spend a little more, then bluejeanscables.com

Or if you are frugal, you can make your own quality cables with ANY 14 gauge two-pair wire and locking banana connectors.

Spend your money on speakers, not cables!
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To make your overpriced list complete, add the Pear Cable pearcable.com and their flagship the ANJOU speaker cable. Pear reports that these cables “allow new levels of sonic accuracy to be explored.” Supposedly, this exploration is accomplished by “proprietary hybrid geometry,” “ultra low electrical reactance” and “fully annealed 99.999% pure oxygen free Copper.”

But with these expensive audio cables you approach the realm of audio listening that only an expert in pyschoacoustics could even attempt to address.


Peace at 186,200 miles per second - electron speed ( and also light speed :D ) ,

Forest Man
 
chris357

chris357

Senior Audioholic
I like having cool looking wires and connectors. I like having them actually to be made well also. there has to be a balance of actual quality, cost and asthetics.
 
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