JTR Speakers?

[poutanen]

Now that is a business looking setup! There's no question by looking at that pic that you're in it for SQ!!!

 

[lsiberian]

Smaller triple 8? I like the sound of that. I need to start saving money again.

Nah were gonna have Wmax get you to build some new speakers. To go with your 2 additional Kappas.

 

[bandphan]

Smaller triple 8? I like the sound of that. I need to start saving money again.

id agree that even the 8's would be a huge improvement in most all ht applications. I love the coaxial mounted tweeters, reminds me of the old cx DCMs..

 

[Matt34]

Nah were gonna have Wmax get you to build some new speakers. To go with your 2 additional Kappas.

He already is building a set for me....but they are for a dedicated 2ch setup. I want these new triple 8 for the HT.

 

[Highbar]

Smaller triple 8? I like the sound of that. I need to start saving money again.

You are selling off stuff to make the house look good to sell and now you start looking at JTR's?? They aren't pretty or small. And yet I can't wait to hear them one day. Guess I'm going to have to get a set when I get a place I can put them.

 

[rmk]

Smaller triple 8? I like the sound of that. I need to start saving money again.

Here are the rough specs and the pre-order deal that expires end of May.

New Triple 8

98db at 1 watt (101db at 2.83volts)

up to 1200 watts program

129db output

80hz - 20khz (+/-3db)

4 ohm impedance

49 lbs

26" x 12" x 12.75"

MSRP $1199 (pre-order $899)

PS. My apologies to Jeff Permanian for destroying his name in an earlier post.

 

[mikeak]

Sc-07

So I asked over a "the other forum" with lots of silence so I thought I would check here. Is anyone using an SC-07 / SC-05 for the JTR speakers Triple 8?

I have the SC-07 and I know all about the stated rating of the Pioneer receiver. I also know all about the number of people driving 4ohm speakers with the receiver (with no problems). I further know more about the audioholics review that stated there were issues with 4ohm speakers . So I have done as much homework as I can online without testing. Now the question is if anyone actually has one of these specific receivers that based on their THX certification (the SC-07) should be able to drive this speaker and if so how it sounds at or near reference levels with the front 3 being the JTR Triple 8.

Appreciate any input that anyone might have!

 

[jostenmeat]

So I asked over a "the other forum" with lots of silence so I thought I would check here. Is anyone using an SC-07 / SC-05 for the JTR speakers Triple 8?

I have the SC-07 and I know all about the stated rating of the Pioneer receiver. I also know all about the number of people driving 4ohm speakers with the receiver (with no problems). I further know more about the audioholics review that stated there were issues with 4ohm speakers . So I have done as much homework as I can online without testing. Now the question is if anyone actually has one of these specific receivers that based on their THX certification (the SC-07) should be able to drive this speaker and if so how it sounds at or near reference levels with the front 3 being the JTR Triple 8.

Appreciate any input that anyone might have!

Best of luck on that, because I don't know of a single soul who is running JTRs with any receiver (be it Onkyo, Denon, Marantz, Yamaha, Sony, whatever) let alone the most specific model of Pioneer SC07. I mean not a soul. Will it work with the receiver? Sure. Will you even get close to what those speakers are capable of? No. Will you care? YMMV. Will everyone recommend that you can an outboard amp for those speakers? Yes.

Perhaps, arguably, the most compelling, or at least most unique, strength of those speakers is the power handling capability. But, they're said to sound very good, so if you're ok with not taking advantage of that certain unique trait, perhaps you can help others with your experiences in running these with a receiver.

 

[mikeak]

Well I got answer from a person using the Denon 4806 and he says they are fantastic.

I am willing to get an amplifier (especially at the Emotiva prices for a 3 channel one), but I would like to wait a little bit. So if I don't get everything out of them in the first 2-3 months that is ok as long as don't mess up my receiver...

So that is why I figured it was at least worth asking

 

[rolling green]

I don't think it's the receiver you should be worrying about. The speakers have a better chance at getting messed up it your receiver clips. I'm currently waiting for my JTR's (should be here next week) and I bit the bullet and purchased the XPA-3.....if you'll be using an outboard amp in the future, might as well wait instead of risking damage to either your receiver or speakers.

 

[lsiberian]

So I asked over a "the other forum" with lots of silence so I thought I would check here. Is anyone using an SC-07 / SC-05 for the JTR speakers Triple 8?

I have the SC-07 and I know all about the stated rating of the Pioneer receiver. I also know all about the number of people driving 4ohm speakers with the receiver (with no problems). I further know more about the audioholics review that stated there were issues with 4ohm speakers . So I have done as much homework as I can online without testing. Now the question is if anyone actually has one of these specific receivers that based on their THX certification (the SC-07) should be able to drive this speaker and if so how it sounds at or near reference levels with the front 3 being the JTR Triple 8.

Appreciate any input that anyone might have!

These are pro-audio speakers for the love of mankind please drive them with a pro-audio amp. If you have the funds I suggest a Yamaha 2500 power amp because it's ultra quiet. Pick up a pair of those and you can drive your speakers. If it's too pricey you can take your luck at the A 500 from behringer.

I don't think it's the receiver you should be worrying about. The speakers have a better chance at getting messed up it your receiver clips. I'm currently waiting for my JTR's (should be here next week) and I bit the bullet and purchased the XPA-3.....if you'll be using an outboard amp in the future, might as well wait instead of risking damage to either your receiver or speakers.

The XPA-3 wouldn't make me comfortable with these speakers, but it's an option if aesthetics are highly valued. I doubt you could do any damage to the speakers with a receiver. But you could blow a receiver with them for sure.

 

[mikeak]

Thanks for the advice and the specific amplifiers.

May I ask why you would suggest the 500 behringer at 2 channels by 230Watt per channel compared to the Emotiva with 3 channels at 300 watt per channel?

The Beringer would be a cheaper option for me so no issues with the price, but just wondering since you say you wouldn't trust Emotiva....

 

[Matt34]

Thanks for the advice and the specific amplifiers.

May I ask why you would suggest the 500 behringer at 2 channels by 230Watt per channel compared to the Emotiva with 3 channels at 300 watt per channel?

The Beringer would be a cheaper option for me so no issues with the price, but just wondering since you say you wouldn't trust Emotiva....

If the extra cost isn't that big of factor, get the Emotiva or get the EP2500. I would stay away from the A500, I had one for a week before it started hissing then a week later the left channel died on me. There is a known issue with distortion through the gain controls.

 

[rolling green]

The XPA-3 wouldn't make me comfortable with these speakers, but it's an option if aesthetics are highly valued.

Much respect for your knowledge lsiberian, can you please elaborate why you would not be comfortable with this set up? Is there a non-pro amp you would be comfortable with? This is for a living area setup with mostly TV viewing, 2 channel music and some HT so aesthetics and fan noise are important too. I do have a chance to unload the XPA-3 so the more information the better. TIA

 

[mr L]

Wow

Talk about some loud sounds!

 

[rman222]

Much respect for your knowledge lsiberian, can you please elaborate why you would not be comfortable with this set up? Is there a non-pro amp you would be comfortable with? This is for a living area setup with mostly TV viewing, 2 channel music and some HT so aesthetics and fan noise are important too. I do have a chance to unload the XPA-3 so the more information the better. TIA

Hi,
Personally I think you would be just fine with the XPA-3. I'm driving 3 Triple 8s (2010 version) with Marantz MA700 monoblocks.. those are 200 watts at 8 ohms and 300 at 4ohns so very comparable to the XPA-3. The marantz drive the t8s comfortable to as loud as I ever want with lots of ease in a 2700 cu ft dedicated room. The very high sensitivy of the JTRs lets you go plenty loud IMHO.
Joe H

 

[jedirun]

Much respect for your knowledge lsiberian, can you please elaborate why you would not be comfortable with this set up? Is there a non-pro amp you would be comfortable with? This is for a living area setup with mostly TV viewing, 2 channel music and some HT so aesthetics and fan noise are important too. I do have a chance to unload the XPA-3 so the more information the better. TIA

I am driving my 2010 Triple 8's with Audiosource Amp 300's. These are relatively low end comercial amps rated at 235 watts at 4 ohms. In my relatively small room it is the best souding system I have heard. Based on the math, I can hit reference level with one Triple 8 and 40 watts at my listening position, so I do not see any reason why you would have to go to a pro amp. If aesthetics and fan noise are an issue, there is no reason not to use the Emotiva over a pro amp. Many are powering these with home theater receivers and getting great results.

 

[lsiberian]

Much respect for your knowledge lsiberian, can you please elaborate why you would not be comfortable with this set up? Is there a non-pro amp you would be comfortable with? This is for a living area setup with mostly TV viewing, 2 channel music and some HT so aesthetics and fan noise are important too. I do have a chance to unload the XPA-3 so the more information the better. TIA

It would be fine. I just never like the idea of driving pro speakers with consumer level amps.

 

[rmk]

I am driving my 2010 Triple 8's with Audiosource Amp 300's. These are relatively low end comercial amps rated at 235 watts at 4 ohms. In my relatively small room it is the best souding system I have heard. Based on the math, I can hit reference level with one Triple 8 and 40 watts at my listening position, so I do not see any reason why you would have to go to a pro amp. If aesthetics and fan noise are an issue, there is no reason not to use the Emotiva over a pro amp. Many are powering these with home theater receivers and getting great results.

Agreed,

The pro vs. consumer amp is non-issue. It's all about having the power to drive the speakers to you preferred levels. I am driving 3 Triple 12LF's and 2 Triple 8's with a Sunfire (commercial) amp and it does the job.

Pro amps are fine if the fan noise and aesthitic issues don't bother you. I would need at least 4 pro amps (I'm about to add SB channels) to replace the Sunfire. Thats a lot of fans and heat ....

 

[rmk]

Can you hear me now?

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