tattoo_Dan

tattoo_Dan

Banned
I prefer lighter lagers,yes,I like Bud,but I also like to try different beers,

one of my favorites is "BIKINI BLONDE LAGER" by Maui Brewing Co

I also like Becks,Samuel Adams,& Rolling Rock,to mentio just a few,


but I have never liked guiness or any IPA/ales


Bevmo and trader joes have a pretty good selection of beers to try
 
tattoo_Dan

tattoo_Dan

Banned
IPA is one of my favorite styles to buy, brew, and drink. Nothing quite like good IPA that has been over hopped.
I have given them a fair try,and just can't seem to get into them,there are several micro breweries around here that I have tried also,they just don't work for me.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
I have given them a fair try,and just can't seem to get into them,there are several micro breweries around here that I have tried also,they just don't work for me.
Everyones tastes are different. I am not a big fan of wheat beers myself.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
If the Guinness bottle has a widget (not all does) then it should be poured into a glass. The widget releases nitrogen (as previously stated) which is far less solvable in liquid than CO2 (what normally carbonates beer). The nitrogen forces the some of the carb out of the beer creating the Guinness "cascade" head that looks like sand falling. It also changes the mouth-feel.
Actually, it was designed to be drunk straight from the bottle. I heard they invested more than a million dollars into the design. Not so with the cans, but I'm pretty sure the bottle itself has instructions written on it to drink straight from the bottle. I'm nearly certain.


I really like Guiness, but gotta agree the bottled ones aren't that good and it is waaayyyyy overpriced. Surprisingly the Guiness in a can is much much much better than the bottled ones. Give that a try sometime or get one poured in an Irish pub, a real Irish pub, not the Irish themed ones. Not sure what they do differently to Guiness but it's always better at those places. Gotta also agree there are some amazingly good microbrews out there.

Jack
The best guinness pubs will use very fine cooling equipment, and very importantly, have a very short draft. There is a brewery near me that had some 30+ ft long draft I think for their guinness, and needless to say I never get guinness there. The best guinness I've had, outside of Europe, is in San Francisco. The keg is literally right behind the tap, specially cooled, yet they still dump out that .5 ft of draft for you, double-pour, let sit, etc. I'm sure Boston has got to have a few good ones too.

IPA is one of my favorite styles to buy, brew, and drink. Nothing quite like good IPA that has been over hopped.
I used to like IPA/hoppy stuff quite a bit, but I can't drink it like I used to anymore. Messes up my GI I think.

With age, I seem to tend towards smoother drinking stuff, lagers and the like.

My favorite porter is probably Anchor's.

Favorite beer is probably Duvel, with Samuel Smith Winter Welcome being a close second.

Anyhoo! When I used to wander into bookstores, and I'd see a Harper's magazine, I wouldn't read any articles, but just scan the Harper's Index. Sometimes they'll list two related stats in a row, and they did this once for Guinness. Went something like:

"The number of pints Guinness brews daily only for domestic consumption: 2,000,000.

The number of people who live in Ireland: 6,000,000."


:p I'm sure both numbers have probably grown since I read this many years ago. :D
 
nibhaz

nibhaz

Audioholic Chief
Guinness is the overrated Irish Stout. There are actually two different versions sold in bottles here in the US. There is the draught recipe which has the widget, and there is the original export version which is sans widget. As far as Irish stouts go I would pick Beamish, then Murphy’s, and Guinness last.

Stouts were my introduction to different beer, but I got bored with them a long time ago. Now I’m defiantly a hop head and would take an American style Pale Ale, IPA, or Imperial IPA over pretty much anything else. English styles are too laid back IMO, but they do provide a nice diversion every once and awhile from the intensity found in America’s crafts brew. English ale’s are like stepping back in time, you get to taste the foundation that a lot our current craft brews are based on.

For me the “common” German beers are generally boring, I hate pretty much anything that comes out of a green bottle, the beer tastes like it has spoiled to me. With that being said, there are some more eccentric beers such as Spaten Optimator, Salvator Doppel Bock, and Ayinger Celebrator that are pretty easily found here in the US but well worth their asking price. Also, I’d say that Franziskaner is best in class for Hefe-Weisse.

American craft brewers that never seem to disappoint: Dogfish Head, Three Floyds, Stone, Bells, and Summit.
 
Matt34

Matt34

Moderator
Agreed. I'm in Germany at least once a year, and while there is great beer there, once you get past the novelty of the history, we have at least matched quality here in the United States.

I really like Belgium beers too.

It's also been great that more and more Americans are getting into beer, and just about everytime I go out now there will be at least one person searching the beer list with me. Instant conversation maker, and a refreshing change from having to listen to the "Would you guys like a red or a white?" spiel...
I guess times have change in the nine years since I lived there. I just remember the Kristall Weizen I could get at the local pub that I haven't been able to match here in the states.
 
avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
Remember Guinness is a STOUT, not a beer exactly. Unless you are a fan of stouts it is doubtful you would appreciate a Guinness at first. Technically it is a beer in the fact that it is made with water, malt and hops but you will notice they don't call it a beer and neither do other stouts brewers. Also like a lot of stouts it is Charged with nitrogen, and that is what the widget is. Several good British beers, ales and stouts are nitrogen charged. Old speckled hen is one of my favorites.
How exactly is a stout not a beer? The nitrogen charge does not remove the beer label, just changes aroma, mouth-feel and how it pours...

http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style13.php

I brew as well and call all my stouts beer. Even if they deviate from misguided German purity law - water, barley and hops (knowledge of yeast was not existent at the time)....

Ohh, and over hopped IPAs are the bomb. Drinking a 10% IIPA I made Simcoe/2-row smash fermented at about 62 degrees with Nottingham yeast. It has been on the dry hops for about 3 weeks now (hops in the keg).
 
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Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
Guiness had a great ad out before that touted it as a 'lite' beer. It was along the lines of, Guiness - only 125 calories per 12oz serving, yeah, even we we're surprised.

Jack
 
split0101

split0101

Junior Audioholic
I like Guinness but only from a tap the can with the widget is ok. There are better stouts out there but I would not say this is a bad one by any means.

My favorite domestic breweries: Magic Hat, Brooklyn, Blue Moon, and Yuengling
Import: Chimay, Duvel, Delirium Tremens (love Belgium beer)
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
How exactly is a stout not a beer? The nitrogen charge does not remove the beer label, just changes aroma, mouth-feel and how it pours...

http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style13.php

I brew as well and call all my stouts beer. Even if they deviate from misguided German purity law - water, barley and hops (knowledge of yeast was not existent at the time)....

Ohh, and over hopped IPAs are the bomb. Drinking a 10% IIPA I made Simcoe/2-row smash fermented at about 62 degrees with Nottingham yeast. It has been on the dry hops for about 3 weeks now (hops in the keg).
I said yes technically it is a beer, but it is not called Guinness Beer or Murphy's Irish Beer. Barley wine is still technically a beer too but you would never call it that. That is a good question though when is a beer no longer a beer? Lets just say it is a style of beer.

Oh and Dogfish head 90 minute IPA, mmmmm good stuff. Can you send me a bottle of that IPA you made? :) Dry hopping rocks. mmmm beeeer, drool.
 
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tbergman

tbergman

Full Audioholic
Iowa is finally getting micro brews in! Still can't get a hold of a 90 minute IPA but have had a couple six packs of the 60 and it's great. Also had flying dog which was awesomely hoppy... and I suggest Sierra Nevada southern hemisphere harvest ale.
 
avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
I said yes technically it is a beer, but it is not called Guinness Beer or Murphy's Irish Beer. Barley wine is still technically a beer too but you would never call it that. That is a good question though when is a beer no longer a beer? Lets just say it is a style of beer.
Go to the Guinness website past the age check portal and you will see the following. I didn't even bother circling the key word in red... :p



A stout is exactly a beer just like a wheat or IPA are exactly other styles of beer. Same exact thing goes for barley wines - they are exactly beer. All are different styles of beer which is why I linked the BJCP (Beer Judging Certification Program) guidelines for the category of beer in question (stout) earlier. Barley wines also have a category. Of all the categories on BJCP the closest to what might have not exactly beer would be 23 or specialty beer which can be virtually anything that does not fit another style.

Oh and Dogfish head 90 minute IPA, mmmmm good stuff. Can you send me a bottle of that IPA you made? :) Dry hopping rocks. mmmm beeeer, drool.
A little sweet for my taste, but still very good. I prefer 120 minute ;). But the IIPA I made is a inspired by 90 minute minus some of the residual sweetness.

Iowa is finally getting micro brews in! Still can't get a hold of a 90 minute IPA but have had a couple six packs of the 60 and it's great. Also had flying dog which was awesomely hoppy... and I suggest Sierra Nevada southern hemisphere harvest ale.
Don't expect too much high ABV stuff in IA. There is a law which bars anything over 6% without special permissions from the state. That is why you don't see 90 minute, for example. On the plus side you can get Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout - they got the special permissions to sell this amazing beer in IA and it is worth the $5 a 12 oz easily. One of the best stouts I have ever had, but you best like bourbon if you are going to get it.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
Go to the Guinness website past the age check portal and you will see the following. I didn't even bother circling the key word in red... :p



A stout is exactly a beer just like a wheat or IPA are exactly other styles of beer. Same exact thing goes for barley wines - they are exactly beer. All are different styles of beer which is why I linked the BJCP (Beer Judging Certification Program) guidelines for the category of beer in question (stout) earlier. Barley wines also have a category. Of all the categories on BJCP the closest to what might have not exactly beer would be 23 or specialty beer which can be virtually anything that does not fit another style.



A little sweet for my taste, but still very good. I prefer 120 minute ;). But the IIPA I made is a inspired by 90 minute minus some of the residual sweetness.



Don't expect too much high ABV stuff in IA. There is a law which bars anything over 6% without special permissions from the state. That is why you don't see 90 minute, for example. On the plus side you can get Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout - they got the special permissions to sell this amazing beer in IA and it is worth the $5 a 12 oz easily. One of the best stouts I have ever had, but you best like bourbon if you are going to get it.
Well that's new. I was thinking on the bottle itself. But Yes you are correct. Yes the 120 min IPA is better, and that is the one I was thinking about. I did not like the 90 min as much either.
 
mperfct

mperfct

Audioholic Samurai
i buy 6 packs of different beer, just to try something different. usually i drink OLD STYLE bottles, mmmm. MOOOSEHEAD right now.

anyway. my guinness. it was flat as a freakin pancake !!! not only that. there is something in the freakin bottle. idk what it is, hard to see it. i can't believe that it is supposed to be like this, is it ?
Are you sure you didn't get Guinness that is supposed to be used with a surger? It would be exactly as you described, and not to be drank without the appropriate equipment.

If you guys haven't tried Guinness with a surger, do yourself a favor and try it out. I think it's the only way to drink it.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/guinness-surger-160488.php
 
tbergman

tbergman

Full Audioholic
Don't expect too much high ABV stuff in IA. There is a law which bars anything over 6% without special permissions from the state. That is why you don't see 90 minute, for example. On the plus side you can get Goose Island's Bourbon County Stout - they got the special permissions to sell this amazing beer in IA and it is worth the $5 a 12 oz easily. One of the best stouts I have ever had, but you best like bourbon if you are going to get it.
I saw the Goose Island Bourbon County Stout and was really temped so I might have to give it a try. It is really spotty what we can get so far. I had a Flying Dog Double Dog, which is their double pale and is 11.5%, but i guess that is one of the few higher ABV beers we're getting yet.
 
avaserfi

avaserfi

Audioholic Ninja
I saw the Goose Island Bourbon County Stout and was really temped so I might have to give it a try. It is really spotty what we can get so far. I had a Flying Dog Double Dog, which is their double pale and is 11.5%, but i guess that is one of the few higher ABV beers we're getting yet.
Get the Bourbon County and drink it at about 45 degrees very slowly on a very cold day...it really is amazing. I wrote one bad thing about it in my notes - that is comes with a twist off (showing my true beer snobbery).
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
Are you sure you didn't get Guinness that is supposed to be used with a surger? It would be exactly as you described, and not to be drank without the appropriate equipment.

If you guys haven't tried Guinness with a surger, do yourself a favor and try it out. I think it's the only way to drink it.

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/guinness-surger-160488.php
hmm, idk. it is a bottle i have, all have the widgets. maybe i could put em on my subs :D
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
I LOVE HAAGEN-DAZS VANILLA AND ALMOND BARS... oops wrong forum :D.

I have noticed that the flavor of the beer (at watering holes) has to do a lot with how well the glass has been cleaned and rinsed at the bar. In most cases, I find that the glasses have soap residue that kills the first couple of drafts.

I am not a particularly picky beer drinker, so I just get whatever is on special. If there is no special to my liking (usually the case, since the specials always seem to be Bud, Bud Light, Coors, Coors Light, yadda yadda yadda), I tend to get a traditional Hef.

If Guiness is on special I'll get a pitcher. Whether it is the flavor or the lore, I like it just fine, as long as it is from a glass.
 
just-some-guy

just-some-guy

Audioholic Field Marshall
ok, guys.

i was looking at the BLUE MOON. it said "wheat ale", that kinda put me off. what is that ? instead, i got the HONEY MOON, pretty good, but pretty mild.
yesterday, different store, i saw MAGIC HAT #9. $10 6pack. i only had 2 last night.
i liked it, will buy again. thanx.
 

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