How not to get your *** kicked by the police

[adwilk]

I didn't even notice this statement before. This country that I haven't done a damn thing for?!?!? I was 97 Bravo in the U.S. Army smart guy. Don't even begin to think that you know me in ANY way, shape or form!!!

I'd tell you to go shove your opinions up your ***, but I don't want to get an infraction.

Yeah, thats not cool and I apologize for that. I was worked up a bit yesterday. Thank you for your service.

agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Nemo128]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Nemo128]

being ticketed for tinted windows is bullshit. I reiterate, if it's about public or officer safety, why isn't their just one law for the whole country? The sun shines the same in California as it does in Arkansas or Maine. Driver/officer safety my ***.

Darien, I got one to give you a laugh. Think about it.

Tint is illegal in NJ, yet you can't drive more than a few blocks in every urban city of NJ without seeing a car shop advertising in big bold letters "WINDOW TINT! CHEAP! STARTING AT $99!" Last time I checked, weed dealers can't stand on the corner advertising openly.

 

[rnatalli]

Well, luckily I'm at least smart enough to not antagonize a police officer.

Smarter than I

 

[darien87]

Yeah, thats not cool and I apologize for that. I was worked up a bit yesterday. Thank you for your service.

agree to disagree on this one.

You know what? I apologize. I think I over-reacted a little. Beef squashed.

No problem dude. I served because I wanted to... and I wanted a little help paying off my student loans.

 

[gmichael]

Darien, I got one to give you a laugh. Think about it.

Tint is illegal in NJ, yet you can't drive more than a few blocks in every urban city of NJ without seeing a car shop advertising in big bold letters "WINDOW TINT! CHEAP! STARTING AT $99!" Last time I checked, weed dealers can't stand on the corner advertising openly.

You like fun rules?

I live in PA. Fireworks are legal to sell here. But as a PA resident, I am not allowed to buy them. Only non-PA residents can buy them. So tons of people from NY & NJ pore into our town to buy fireworks. But they aren't allowed to bring them over the border. Who makes up these rules?
Just as another fun note, as you cross from PA into NY on the interstate, there's a huge sign welcoming you to NY. It's of that Statue of Liberty with fireworks going on all around her. (Watch out for the trooper hiding behind the sign) Only in America...

Oh, and I mean the stores that specialize in selling fireworks check ID. Walmart sells them to anyone.

 

[darien87]

I’m not sure that it’s valid, but it seems that there are racial issues at play in this conversation that may be going unspoken.

At least for Darien, whom I believe is AA, might be expressing a general frustration at being racially profiled, or at least perceived to be racially profiled. I can’t fathom what type anger or distrust that might occur if I was pulled over or suspected of something simply based on skin color. And if it happened once, do you then wonder if every time you’re pulled over whether or not you did something or whether it was due to your skin color? It would be hard to let that suspicion go, in my mind.

Just playing armchair psychologist.

Not bad dude. You nailed it. I try not to let my distrust for LEO's cloud my judgement, I really do. But it's hard to not be defensive when I think back on how I've been treated in the past. I have had cops give me tickets in the past that were courteous. It just sucks to get a ticket.

By the way, I'm mixed, half-black, half-white.

 

[gmichael]

By the way, I'm mixed, half-black, half-white.

Which half? Left, right, top, bottom, front, back?

 

[darien87]

You like fun rules?

I live in PA. Fireworks are legal to sell here. But as a PA resident, I am not allowed to buy them. Only non-PA residents can buy them. So tons of people from NY & NJ pore into our town to buy fireworks. But they aren't allowed to bring them over the border. Who makes up these rules?
Just as another fun note, as you cross from PA into NY on the interstate, there's a huge sign welcoming you to NY. It's of that Statue of Liberty with fireworks going on all around her. (Watch out for the trooper hiding behind the sign) Only in America...

Oh, and I mean the stores that specialize in selling fireworks check ID. Walmart sells them to anyone.

That makes NO sense at all? Why sell them if only non-residents can buy them? Are there a lot of fireworks making companies in PA? That's the only thing I can come up with. If there were, then maybe they allow them to be legal to sell to keep the companies in business, but they don't want local citizens setting them off in PA, so they make it so that you have to be from out of state. I don't know, I can't come up with a scenario that makes it logical.

 

[darien87]

Which half? Left, right, top, bottom, front, back?

Ask my wife.

 

[gmichael]

That makes NO sense at all? Why sell them if only non-residents can buy them? Are there a lot of fireworks making companies in PA? That's the only thing I can come up with. If there were, then maybe they allow them to be legal to sell to keep the companies in business, but they don't want local citizens setting them off in PA, so they make it so that you have to be from out of state. I don't know, I can't come up with a scenario that makes it logical.

I never dug into it. I was arrested years ago for having an M80 in NY. I was charged with possession of a weapon. (A federal offence with a max penalty of 10 years in jail) It cost me a lot of cash and my job. I don't go near fireworks anymore.

 

[Davemcc]

By the way, I'm mixed, half-black, half-white.

By presidential decree, you're all black now Baby!!!

 

[gmichael]

By presidential decree, you're all black now Baby!!!

Hey! I'm white and my wife is not. Does this mean that my daughter will not be related to me?

Sorry, didn't mean to jack the thread.

Those darn cops!

 

[Davemcc]

Hey! I'm white and my wife is not. Does this mean that my daughter will not be related to me?

Only if she becomes president.

 

[CraigV]

I’m not sure that it’s valid, but it seems that there are racial issues at play in this conversation that may be going unspoken.

At least for Darien, whom I believe is AA, might be expressing a general frustration at being racially profiled, or at least perceived to be racially profiled. I can’t fathom what type anger or distrust that might occur if I was pulled over or suspected of something simply based on skin color. And if it happened once, do you then wonder if every time you’re pulled over whether or not you did something or whether it was due to your skin color? It would be hard to let that suspicion go, in my mind.

Just playing armchair psychologist.

And here’s the retort to that – several years ago, a local TV news reporter was sent out to do a story about the police racially profiling. She wanted to cover all sides of the story, so she was invited to do a ride-along with an officer. As they were on patrol the officer noticed a car several cars lengths in front of them driving erratically. He pointed out the car to the reporter and asked:

“Do you see that car”?


“Yes”

“Seeing how it’s being driven, do you think I should pull over the driver”?

“Yes”

“Can you tell the race of the person driving from here”?

“No”

The reporter returned to her news room with the footage and pointed out the fact that the officer was concerned the car was swerving in & out of lanes, and the officer thought it appropriate to pull over the driver without knowing the race of the driver. The news director told her no, he wanted to air cases of profiling only.

So, how much of the American attitude towards this subject is derived from the BIASED media?

 

[adwilk]

And here’s the retort to that – several years ago, a local TV news reporter was sent out to do a story about the police racially profiling. She wanted to cover all sides of the story, so she was invited to do a ride-along with an officer. As they were on patrol the officer noticed a car several cars lengths in front of them driving erratically. He pointed out the car to the reporter and asked:

“Do you see that car”?


“Yes”

“Seeing how it’s being driven, do you think I should pull over the driver”?

“Yes”

“Can you tell the race of the person driving from here”?

“No”

The reporter returned to her news room with the footage and pointed out the fact that the officer was concerned the car was swerving in & out of lanes, and the officer thought it appropriate to pull over the driver without knowing the race of the driver. The news director told her no, he wanted to air cases of profiling only.

So, how much of the American attitude towards this subject is derived from the BIASED media?

Theres absolutely no way to know. I doubt that media outlet is in anyway the exception, but theres no way to be certain. That said... I bet MUCH of the American attitude towards this subject is derived from the BIASED media...

 

[darien87]

I never dug into it. I was arrested years ago for having an M80 in NY. I was charged with possession of a weapon. (A federal offence with a max penalty of 10 years in jail) It cost me a lot of cash and my job. I don't go near fireworks anymore.

Wow that sucks. Those M80's are no joke though. Like having a mini stick of dynamite in your hand.

I've only lit fireworks once in my life. It was with some friends at their house. I lit off a bottle rocket and the thing went up about 10 feet, then turned and went straight at the house. It was like a guided missile. Luckily nothing caught on fire or anything. After that, I was like, "Ok, now I know why these things are illegal."

 

[chris357]

ok, i take back half of what i've said.. i didnt think about the race thing.. as a white guy i dont really have anything to complain about.. but coming from an African American, I can see you having a different view point and set of experiences. i can imagine that even a little thing like the tint could just feel like herassment to you. it might not even be that but it must always be in the back of your mind.

PEACE

now a big group hug and lets go crank our kick *** stereos

 

[Nemo128]

And here’s the retort to that – several years ago, a local TV news reporter was sent out to do a story about the police racially profiling. She wanted to cover all sides of the story, so she was invited to do a ride-along with an officer. As they were on patrol the officer noticed a car several cars lengths in front of them driving erratically. He pointed out the car to the reporter and asked:

“Do you see that car”?


“Yes”

“Seeing how it’s being driven, do you think I should pull over the driver”?

“Yes”

“Can you tell the race of the person driving from here”?

“No”

The reporter returned to her news room with the footage and pointed out the fact that the officer was concerned the car was swerving in & out of lanes, and the officer thought it appropriate to pull over the driver without knowing the race of the driver. The news director told her no, he wanted to air cases of profiling only.

So, how much of the American attitude towards this subject is derived from the BIASED media?

Yeah, I'm sure all cops would act exactly that way when a camera isn't recording their every action...

I showed this to a couple cop buddies of mine. They laughed their @$$es off at this notion, citing the "tons of racist @$$holes" they work with who are proud of their actions.

 

[Davemcc]

Yeah, I'm sure all cops would act exactly that way when a camera isn't recording their every action...

I showed this to a couple cop buddies of mine. They laughed their @$$es off at this notion, citing the "tons of racist @$$holes" they work with who are proud of their actions.

Like any other situation, it's what you do when nobody is watching that defines your character.