Newbie with turntable...broke stylus.

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2taall

Audiophyte
Hey all I'm new to the forum and to turntables.

Here is the problem:

When I went to play a record on my new Denon turntable the sound was muffled, so I read in the manual where it said to remove the stylus cover before playing. When I went to remove the cover of the stylus I proceded to break the stylus. I had assumed the there was a sheath covering the entire "arm" of the stylus and I was basically trying to tear away the black color, which I had assumed was the plastic cover, similiar to the way you strip away plastic on a wire to make it bare. I guess that the stylus is just the little point at the end of the arm and there must be a tiny piece of plastic covering it?

So it looks like I need a new DSM80 Denon Stylus. On the next stylus, so that this doesn't occur again, what is the proper way to remove the stylus cover properly?

Thank you,
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Welcome to the forum!

Sorry to hear about your troubles. The stylus cover is the protective plastic piece that is located on the front of the stylus that flips up and down. There is nothing to peal off. The turntable probably comes shipped with the cover in the down position (over the stylus), so you'd need to flip it up to expose the stylus.

If you got sound, then you already flipped that cover up (or else the stylus wouldn't have touched the record).
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Hey all I'm new to the forum and to turntables.

Here is the problem:

When I went to play a record on my new Denon turntable the sound was muffled, so I read in the manual where it said to remove the stylus cover before playing. When I went to remove the cover of the stylus I proceded to break the stylus. I had assumed the there was a sheath covering the entire "arm" of the stylus and I was basically trying to tear away the black color, which I had assumed was the plastic cover, similiar to the way you strip away plastic on a wire to make it bare. I guess that the stylus is just the little point at the end of the arm and there must be a tiny piece of plastic covering it?

So it looks like I need a new DSM80 Denon Stylus. On the next stylus, so that this doesn't occur again, what is the proper way to remove the stylus cover properly?

Thank you,
As far as I know, all Denon cartridges are moving coil and the stylus is not replaceable.

Here is the current line up of Denon cartridges. I can not cross reference DSM 80 anywhere.

You will note that only the two cheaper models have a stylus guard. You flip the guard up and down. Down to cover the stylus when not in use, and up to play. It is that simple. The stylus is the small polished diamond set in the cantilever. The Cantilever is very fragile and should never be touched.

We would have to know more about your set up to help you with the muffled sound. A turntable has to be carefully set up and if the turntable has no built in preamp, need a pre amp or have to be connected to a high gain RIAA input.

Before you can go any further you will have to purchase a new cartridge, if it is moving coil, and I suspect it is. You will have to carefully install it.
 
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2taall

Audiophyte
The more I think about it I believe what had happened was this. When I plugged in the record player it automatically turned on and started spinning- due to the arm being over the record playing area. The arm then automatically lowered and started dragging on the rubber mat where the record lays. I think that the stylus probably grabbed a little rubber and just needed to be cleaned off, thus when the record was put on it did not sound properly.

I'll get the Denon record player number and the cartridge number that Denon recomends later this morning.

I have this running into a Pioneer Elite SC-05 with Infinity speakers.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
The more I think about it I believe what had happened was this. When I plugged in the record player it automatically turned on and started spinning- due to the arm being over the record playing area. The arm then automatically lowered and started dragging on the rubber mat where the record lays. I think that the stylus probably grabbed a little rubber and just needed to be cleaned off, thus when the record was put on it did not sound properly.

I'll get the Denon record player number and the cartridge number that Denon recomends later this morning.

I have this running into a Pioneer Elite SC-05 with Infinity speakers.
We need to know your exact turntable and cartridge. Your receiver does not have an RIAA compensated high gain phono input. Unless your turntable has a built in preamp stage, you will need a phono preamp between your turntable and receiver.

Moving coil cartridges are the most fragile of all. If you handled the cantilever you ruined that cartridge. Even playing it on the mat could do fatal damage to a moving coil.

Also some Denon cartridges are high output moving coil types and some low impedance low output types. The low output types need a costly moving coil preamp stage.

So please post the model number and details of both your turntable and cartridge, preferably with links.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
That cartridge is a moving magnet and so the stylus is replaceable. That cartridge does not seem to be available as a separate item. All of Denon stand alone cartridges seem to be moving coil.

Your turntable has a moving magnet RIAA preamp built in. So you are good to go. You can plug the turntable into any of your analog line inputs such as CD or AUX.

Make sure that your turntable is leveled and that the tracking and anti skating forces are set correctly.

If all those parameters are met and you still don't like the sound of it, your best bet would be to consider a cartridge upgrade.

By the way, that cartridge does not appear to have a stylus guard.
 
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