Car modding/projects thread!

[Sheep]

Hoootttt

SheepStar

 

[Rich-n-Texas]

My beasts

This one's been retired for now...

My current ride, a virgin right now but the mods are soon to come...

 

[adwilk]

My current ride, a virgin right now but the mods are soon to come...

I love the G8's, Rich. A lot of fun to drive for sure. I can't believe they didnt make a manual though. Deal breaker for me.

 

[Rich-n-Texas]

The GXP has an optional 6 speed. About $10K more. Too much for me, but it looks like the GXP will become the collectors item.

 

[adwilk]

The GXP has an optional 6 speed. About $10K more. Too much for me, but it looks like the GXP will become the collectors item.

Yeah, it would have to be the collectors. Once you start talking that kinda money, you gotta be a serious pontiac dude.

For the money, I've been super happy with my G6 GTP 6 Speed. Tons of fun to drive.. I might get outside and take a picture of the intake and exhaust later just in the spirit of this being a mod thread...

 

[adwilk]

The GXP has an optional 6 speed. About $10K more. Too much for me, but it looks like the GXP will become the collectors item.

WOW... that GXP is pretty sweet. Thats a lot of power and car for the money really. It might actually be tough to look in the 40gr price range and not consider it. Thats a really sharp car. Gonna be plenty hard to come by too...

 

[Rich-n-Texas]

While I was getting a self-inflicted gunshot... err... fender-bender repaired I got to drive a G6. That car was a BLAST. And brother did it have some really good brakes!

There's also a G6 GTP where I bought my car, or at least there was but I think it's gone now. Very sharp. :thumbsup:

 

[Rich-n-Texas]

Yup. Some real dumbasses at GM ya know?

 

[adwilk]

Yup. Some real dumbasses at GM ya know?

Yeah, I really dont get it. But given the situation, Pontiac kinda to go when slimming down their line. Cant get rid of Chevy, Top tier line is Caddy and they sell gobs of Buicks overseas. No need to sit and watch pontiac and chevy cannibalize each other any longer.

I'm just upset about it. I've owned several pontiacs and have been very pleased with every one.

 

[vizionut]

It's not my truck thank good

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[j_garcia]

Straight up, if I had an RSX-S, I'd put on some clean rims, slight drop, and an intake. They're quick enough out of the box for me.

SheepStar

Great motor and excellent gearbox, but the handling isn't quite there, at least not the first few model years. When they went to the new front suspension style, they lost something and gained a whole lot of turning radius. I really like the look and the interior, but when I had the choice after wrecking my R since that was the nearest replacement, I didn't buy one.

 

[Nemo128]

Straight up, if I had an RSX-S, I'd put on some clean rims, slight drop, and an intake. They're quick enough out of the box for me.

SheepStar

Not me unfortunately. I'm an addict. I was up at Lime Rock a couple months ago putting a Lotus Exige S around the track, and I thought it was slow after a lap... speed is a disease.

 

[Nemo128]

Great motor and excellent gearbox, but the handling isn't quite there, at least not the first few model years. When they went to the new front suspension style, they lost something and gained a whole lot of turning radius. I really like the look and the interior, but when I had the choice after wrecking my R since that was the nearest replacement, I didn't buy one.

That's said a lot, but it's always proven to outperform the DSM Teg-R around a track. People knock the McPherson till they're blue in the face, but there's a reason BMW and Porshe use them too.

 

[Sheep]

Not me unfortunately. I'm an addict. I was up at Lime Rock a couple months ago putting a Lotus Exige S around the track, and I thought it was slow after a lap... speed is a disease.

Yeah, I'm more looking to get my setup running a bit better. Going to re-tune on BRE, and we're going to drop the Koni's down more (No wheel gap).

Pictures when finished.

SheepStar

 

[j_garcia]

People knock the McPherson till they're blue in the face, but there's a reason BMW and Porshe use them too.

Yes, there is. Because they are RWD cars, and because they've been doing it for YEARS Honda is still learning and getting better at it. I drove the new Civic Si and the RSX-S and both had good handling stock, but it wasn't to my liking. I would have to modify them, where the stock DC2R was dialed in right off the showroom floor.

 

[Rich-n-Texas]

I thought it was because, with the BMW anyway, there's a "tech-in-trunk" option that can be purchased with the 3/5 series.

No?

 

[Sheep]

Yes, there is. Because they are RWD cars, and because they've been doing it for YEARS Honda is still learning and getting better at it. I drove the new Civic Si and the RSX-S and both had good handling stock, but it wasn't to my liking. I would have to modify them, where the stock DC2R was dialed in right off the showroom floor.

Comparing an R to an Si or S isn't the same, and you should know that. R's had PERFECT factory suspension. The Si and Type S didn't see the same love.

SheepStar

 

[quicke60]

Yes, there is. Because they are RWD cars, and because they've been doing it for YEARS Honda is still learning and getting better at it. I drove the new Civic Si and the RSX-S and both had good handling stock, but it wasn't to my liking. I would have to modify them, where the stock DC2R was dialed in right off the showroom floor.

This is a design compromise - you can't have both ride comfort and good handling, there is always a compromise. Generally the compromise is made at the expense of rebound softness, whereas the DC2-R obviously had much less compromise. A good example would be my old 350Z which had a horrid combination of stiff compression soft rebound versus my G35 coupe (sport suspension) which was much better balanced...

Also the BMWs don't run Macpherson design on the rear...

 

[j_garcia]

This is a design compromise - you can't have both ride comfort and good handling, there is always a compromise. Generally the compromise is made at the expense of rebound softness, whereas the DC2-R obviously had much less compromise. A good example would be my old 350Z which had a horrid combination of stiff compression soft rebound versus my G35 coupe (sport suspension) which was much better balanced...

Also the BMWs don't run Macpherson design on the rear...

You can have ride comfort and good handling. You can't have great handling and good comfort IMO. My DC2R wasn't as stiff as my current car is and both handle very well without a huge penalty in ride quality. The R was one of the most neutral FWD cars I've driven, though it still doesn't handle like a RWD car. It had the advantage over most small cars in that it was seam welded and had quite a bit of additional bracing (both bolted and welded) into the chassis and was far more rigid than a standard DC2. I had a 95 GSR prior to buying the R and they were VERY different cars.

 

[Vracer111]

Whats this...an Integra thread? Yeah the newer Integras (RSX's) were nice but not as nice as the double-wishbone earlier models.

Personally I had a '90 GS Integra and have setup my brothers '90 RS Integra for track day duty. I had a '98 V6 Camaro Hardtop (lightest model) as well which I had setup for autocrossing/Track as well - Not as nimble as the integra in transitions but insane steadystate grip and braking ability: Loved the brakes with HP+ pads and R-Compound rubber. The costs were just a little high for consumables though and I did not like working on the transmission/engine one bit (with the engine shoved under the dash and center tunnel area removing the transmission was not fun). I currently have a clean '90 Civic DX Sedan with perfect frame in the garage which will eventually become a dedicated track car complete with underbody aerodynamics for Time Trials and Track days. Just need to get myself motivated enough and stop messing around with all my other hobbies....(photography, firearms, computers, audio, etc....)

My brothers '90 RS (custom intake system + 8lb ACT Prolite flywheel = instant throttle response...I love it!) that we got down to 2300lbs with full fuel load. Very fun to mess around with Lotus Elise and Corvette Z06 drivers in the corners with it... they may be much faster in the straights, but most all are slower in the transitional turns and non-high speed steady state turns.

My former '98 V6 Camaro ( Koni sport dampers, Hotchkis Sport hollow antiroll bar set, Spohn adjustable rear trailing arms and panhard bar with spherical bearings) fun to drive on track but a pain to work on.