Anyone here a "Lost" fan?

Which female cast member is the hottest?


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CraigV

CraigV

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So what I am trying to get at here... is that Jacob is using this new batch of people that HE himself visited before the crash, to change the outcome of how things turn out on the island. The whole while, his nemesis is looking for ways to kill him... through a loophole (in Jacob's plans, perhaps? **in which he would know all about if Richard was a spy**).
That’s the part I’ve been thinking of. Did Jacob somehow pre-destine these people by visiting them before flight 815 (and did he also visit all the other passengers?) OR did he just somehow know (possibly after taking a journey to the future) that these people would some day end up on the island? Does he pick & choose? Does the other “nameless” man pick & choose? Are they in fact, on some higher order,
angel & demon?
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

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I've been fascinated with the plot elements that they have woven into the show. Yin and Yang seem to be the major components in the writer's idea:

There are two counteracting sides, but they are - ultimately - part of one whole thing. As was pointed out earlier... Locke describing Backgammon - two players, two sides... one is light... one is dark... which is the essential philosophy of yin and yang.

Now that I have seen the side-by-side comparison of Jack's eye... I am firmly established in my belief that;

1) The (first) Incident was NOT the result of the drilling - it was the result of the bomb.

The Blast Door Map ( http://www.caffeine-headache.net/weblog/blastDoorMapOverlay.jpg ) indicates that an "Incident" occured sometime in the early eighties... I have a couple of ideas regarding this -

Since Jack was supposedly not associated with the original variation of DHARMA in 1977, they successfully drilled into the electromagnetic anomally and made "The Swan" station... which included with it a large reasearch lab that would later be known as "The Incident Room" ( http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/lostpedia/images/f/fd/Behind_the_Secret_Swan.jpg ). Sometime in the early eighties, (something) went down... resulting in the reactor of the Swan to explode, and forcing DHARMA to contain that reactor in the room stated above, thus requiring the 108-minute protocol to be observed.

If you watch The Swan Orientation Video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNFDHgjrlK8 ) you will notice a few things... for example, Dr. Marvin Candle is Dr. Pierre Chang (Miles' father) and Pierre Chang has a fake left arm. Dr. Chang states in the video: "Station 3 was originally constructed as a laboratory where scientists could work to understand the unique electromagnetic fluctuations eminating from this sector of The Island. Not long, after the experiments began however, there was... an Incident..."


2) Assuming the previous statement is true... Flight 815 will in fact crash on The Island on September 22nd, 2004. And this whole chain of events will just happen all over again. It seems to be an inevitable catch-22... that is, until you look at the VARIABLES in the situation.

Constants on the island: Jacob, Esau (Jacob's nemesis, sorry), The Island, the military presence circa 1950, DHARMA's presence in the 70's...

Variables on the island: Flight 815 survivors...

It seems that The Others infiltrated DHARMA... during The Purge ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSwNGC30IqI ) it seems to me that The Others were able to initiate the massacre internally; they were wearing masks as they walked out from the shadows - the people that were dead were just that: dead... there seemed to be no struggle or indication that they were aware that hostiles were attacking.

Since I am a believer that Jack did the wrong thing, I also feel that Sayid did the wrong thing when he shot Benjamin Linus... that wasn't supposed to happen!

There remains a slight blank here: How did Benjamin come to control The Others? How did HE pull off The Purge? (Something I am assuming we may learn in Season 6)

Anyway... if the Others were able to infiltrate DHARMA, they knew all of DHARMA's secrets... and even if they weren't aware of some sort of incident originally taking place in 1977, they would sure as heck know about it after Jack screwed everything up.

Open questions at this point:

When/how did Benjamin Linus come back to DHARMA after being cured by The Others?

What happened once Juliet made the bomb detonate?

I have no answer for Ben... but the bomb?

Wayyyy back in Season 2, John Locke decided it would be a good idea to STOP pushing the button. In doing so, Desmond had to turn the key to a failsafe. For those of you that need a refresher: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5UXeJbQTas ... After turning the failsafe key, Desmond wakes up covered in red paint... and begins reliving his life since BEFORE The Island. The entire time, he gets feelings and flashbacks about The Island. Before long, he meets Eloise Hawking in a jewelery store... the second time around, Desmond decides that he is in fact going to marry Penny, but Eloise tells him that his destiny is The Island... not Penny.

After a good knock in the head, Desmond wakes up naked, back on The Island... but with the mysterious ability to predict the future.

I've got a pretty good feeling that THE VARIABLES (Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Jin, Sayid...) are going to wake up at a point previous in their lives (or ahead in the future, whatever way you want to look at it)...

In doing this, we may better understand the flashbacks that we saw in previous seasons.

In addition to all of this, you will have to remember that THE CONSTANTS all stayed the same, primarily The Others and the incidents that happened with DHARMA. It may be bright to point out something here, though... since The Others already have various abilities (Eloise can see the future, for example)... they may not exactly be constants... if anything, they may be the people writing the equation?

We already know all about the Oceanic survivors. We know their past... we know their future... we know how they get on/off the island.

We already know all about DHARMA. We know how they came to be, we know what happens to them...

What's left? THE OTHERS! I firmly believe that Season 6 is going to be Season 1 - from The Others perspective. They know what goes down on The Island... and with orders from Jacob, they try to change the mathematical formula for the future of the island... re-arranging the variables so that the outcome is different.

If I recall correctly from the Season 5 finale... Jacob implies that he is the one who brought the Black Rock to the island, wherein the Nemesis states that they always become corrupt, fight, and kill... and that Jacob is merely trying to prove him wrong. Jacob then says that anything up to that point, is progress.

Now before I go even further on into this exhausting theory, I want to go over something...

Ilana and her macho buddy state that they are "the good guys"...
Ben states that he is "one of the good guys"...

They all work for Jacob.

So who works for Jacob's nemesis? Widmore? Ms. Hawking?

I guess we can't really create a fine line just yet as to who exactly are the good guys and bad guys... we just don't know enough yet. But what I like to remember is that, even though there are two sides, they still make a whole (YIN YANG!!!). And all of these people are here for a reason.


Back to my original statements...

Jacob seems to have hope for the people that come to the island.
His nemesis does not... and he wants to kill Jacob for some strange reason.

It seems, though, that Jacob may be influencing the Oceanic variables in a way to prove himself correct to his nemesis. He tells The Others whom to take from the crashed aircraft (well, he tells Richard, anyway)... and he helps divulge all sorts of information regarding the survivors.

Note: Richard could be working for Jacob's nemesis...

So what I am trying to get at here... is that Jacob is using this new batch of people that HE himself visited before the crash, to change the outcome of how things turn out on the island. The whole while, his nemesis is looking for ways to kill him... through a loophole (in Jacob's plans, perhaps? **in which he would know all about if Richard was a spy**).

And now it's all being reset to the beginning... when the Oceanic variables first came to the island. Only, now we are going to see things from a different POV...

And if that is the case, Jacob is once again alive...

And The Others are going to manipulate the Oceanic survivors in a way that will help Jacob... since they most likely already know what is going to happen...

Any thoughts? :confused:
Interesting write-up. I can see you really put a lot into it. As such, you bring up interesting perspectives. Unfortunately, we will just have to wait until 2010 before getting some of our answers. The anticipation is why I keep watching. It appears that is the case for many of us. :):p:)



Cheers,

Phil
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
That’s the part I’ve been thinking of. Did Jacob somehow pre-destine these people by visiting them before flight 815 (and did he also visit all the other passengers?) OR did he just somehow know (possibly after taking a journey to the future) that these people would some day end up on the island? Does he pick & choose? Does the other “nameless” man pick & choose? Are they in fact, on some higher order,
angel & demon?
Craig, it does kind of look like Jacob is part of some higher order. Is it divine? I don't know, but he certainly is not an Average Joe that somehow ended up on the island. Jacob's ability to alter time shows he is not ordinary person. Does he use it to control everyone on the island? Once again, we rally don't know just yet. However, the final season will in all likelihood answer many of our questions. Some may even go unanswered. Only time will tell. :);):)



Cheers,

Phil
 
Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

Senior Audioholic
Nice thoughts res - a lot to think about there.

Just wondering how many characters have killed their fathers? I think Kate did for abusing her mother. Locke had somebody kill his - was it Ben or Sawyer? Or was it Locke's Dad that conned Sawyer's parents and Sawyer killed him for Locke? That was wayyy back and I haven't got to that episode yet in re-watching... Jack killed his father's career and according to Christian "his life". Anyone else? Miles had issues with his father but that appears to have been mis-placed - Sun's father was apparently some kind of ruthless ogre -- but there are a LOT of "father issues" with the characters on the show.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Nice thoughts res - a lot to think about there.

Just wondering how many characters have killed their fathers? I think Kate did for abusing her mother. Locke had somebody kill his - was it Ben or Sawyer? Or was it Locke's Dad that conned Sawyer's parents and Sawyer killed him for Locke? That was wayyy back and I haven't got to that episode yet in re-watching... Jack killed his father's career and according to Christian "his life". Anyone else? Miles had issues with his father but that appears to have been mis-placed - Sun's father was apparently some kind of ruthless ogre -- but there are a LOT of "father issues" with the characters on the show.
Phil, another interesting spin on what the characters have in common. You bring up some very good questions. I have also noticed that Sawyer at one time seems to be a "good" guy, while at others he is a "bad" guy. As such, I believe Sawyer is a wild card so to speak. Exactly how that plays out remains to be seen. My guess is, however, Sawyer will play a much larger role in the final season. Perhaps then, we will get some of the answers we all are seeking. :);):)



Cheers,

Phil
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

Senior Audioholic
Something else to chew on...

The show has always based itself on good vs. bad / light vs. dark...

BUT

We never really understand who the bad guys are, nor who the good guys are. But that could be because of the various ways that we percieve the situations on Lost.

Ms. A thinks that children are a wonderful thing - and has a few herself. She enjoys their bright smiles and joyfully laughter.

Ms .B think otherwise... she prides herself on her job and other responsibilities that just don't include children.

Some people agree with Ms. A, while others agree with Ms. B
Neither one of them is bad/good - but they are still polar opposites that could somehow be deemed as good or bad depending on how you percieve their views.

So who knows if the good guys are the good guys, or the bad guys the bad. I think the writers mean for us to take something MORE from the show... coming to our own conlusions regarding what is bad, and what is good. If we think that humanity has a chance, and that people can be good, then we think that Jacob's POV is the "good" one...
But if we too believe that mankind only becomes corrupt... then we see Esau as the good guy, wanting to protect the Island from outside forces.
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
Bah - I think Hurley is going to wake up, realizing the whole ordeal was just a bizarre dream and proclaim

“Dude, I’m never going to drink that much tequila while eating my mom’s taco’s EVER again”

 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Bah - I think Hurley is going to wake up, realizing the whole ordeal was just a bizarre dream and proclaim

“Dude, I’m never going to drink that much tequila while eating my mom’s taco’s EVER again”


The way things are these days, I wouldn't be surprised! :rolleyes::rolleyes: Who knows, it could just be someone's dream. ;):eek:;) Now that would really be something to see imho-not to mention one BIG disappointment. :eek::D:eek:



Cheers,

Phil
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
The way things are these days, I wouldn't be surprised! :rolleyes::rolleyes: Who knows, it could just be someone's dream. ;):eek:;) Now that would really be something to see imho-not to mention one BIG disappointment. :eek::D:eek:
Cheers,

Phil
I've enjoyed it but now I am getting lost. :D
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
I've enjoyed it but now I am getting lost. :D

LOL......once again no doubt about that. In fact, my head is spinning just thinking of all the different possibilities. As has been mentioned previously, some questions will never be fully answered. It is more about what meaning we put into it more or less. Hence, I guess this is why I have followed the show from the very beginning. The final season looks to be spectacular, but the anticipation is killing many of us. :D:p:D



Cheers,

Phil
 
res6jya6

res6jya6

Senior Audioholic
The new and last season (6) starts in 2010...

I am guessing that they are going to be starting in in January, like they did with Season 5...

Which means that we are going to have to wait a little more than 227 days.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
The new and last season (6) starts in 2010...

I am guessing that they are going to be starting in in January, like they did with Season 5...

Which means that we are going to have to wait a little more than 227 days.

Of course we all know that they are going to build it up! You know-take it for all they can.........while keeping us all waiting. This has kind of been their formula from the get go. Over time, however, the (1)-hour episodes seem to have more and more commercials. :confused::confused: Milk it baby milk it .....right? Oh well, as much as I complain I still watch the show and look forward to the next episode.........Lmao!!!!! ;):eek:;)



Cheers,

Phil
 
cerwinmad

cerwinmad

Full Audioholic
we are up to episode 13 series five here in NZ, i love the show and am amazed the writers can keep track themselves!!! and yes juliet, claire and kate are stunning.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
we are up to episode 13 series five here in NZ, i love the show and am amazed the writers can keep track themselves!!! and yes juliet, claire and kate are stunning.
Sun is a hottie too! Can't leave her out. Lots of eye-candy on this show. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that in my book. ;):p;) The more the merrier I always say. :D:D:D



Cheers,

Phil
 
Phil Taylor

Phil Taylor

Senior Audioholic
Sun is a hottie too! Can't leave her out. Lots of eye-candy on this show. Of course, there is nothing wrong with that in my book. ;):p;) The more the merrier I always say. :D:D:D
Last night I watched the episode from season one were Sun was in a bikini on the beach and Jin got all mad... she looked goooooood. :D

Got one disc left to go on season one... damn that was a great season!
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Last night I watched the episode from season one were Sun was in a bikini on the beach and Jin got all mad... she looked goooooood. :D

Got one disc left to go on season one... damn that was a great season!
Yeah Phil, I remember that scene very well. Sun looked fantastic to say the very least. :p;):p I also remember a scene when Kate was in her panties swimming with Sawyer. Needless to say, she looked fantastic as well. :eek:;):eek: Claire is also such a babe. Juliette is just right down sexy as I love her smile. Juliette also has one of the best natural racks I have seen in a long time. I noticed she likes to flaunt them too which is alright in my book. :eek::p:eek: Heck, I would love to be on an island with that many hotties running around!



Cheers,

Phil
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
It would be nice to see which female from the Lost cast is the hottest. First, we need to specify who are the participants. Here is my recommendation in no particular order:

Claire
Kate
Sun
Juliette
The chick that Locke shot while she was contacting the ship. Sorry, I don't remember her name, but her accent is rather sexy
. :D:D


With that being said, are there any other female cast members that someone would like to add? Then, perhaps one of the mods could set-up some sort of a poll? As always, I also hope it is ok with res6. After all, it was his thread originally as this is no attempt for a hijack. It is, however, just merely a suggestion. :):):)



Cheers,

Phil
 
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speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
BTW, the chick that Locke shot was named Naomi. Sorry, had to look it up. I also would like to add the likes of Shannon, Ana Lucia, Nikki, and Charlotte. I am sure there are others so feel free to add more. Hope I can get a mod to assist. :);):) Oh, I also spelled one of the characters wrong. It should be Juliet not Juliette.



Cheers,

Phil
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
i can make the poll. but since i am not familiar with the characters ... please create a post i can just copy with all the character's you want in the poll.
 

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