Hyperdrive Engine

[rnatalli]

Us trying to pass through one would be like a housefly trying to pass through a turbojet engine!

How about a person?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

One of the darn est videos I've ever seen.

 

[haraldo]

How about a person?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

One of the darn est videos I've ever seen.

Today it's minced meat for dinner

 

[rnatalli]

Today it's minced meat for dinner

Amazing that he didn't even have a scratch.

 

[haraldo]

Amazing that he didn't even have a scratch.

Ah really, then I didn't watch well enough, I thought he was toast

 

[rnatalli]

Ah really, then I didn't watch well enough, I thought he was toast

I don't think they show it in the video. He was a little shaken, but otherwise perfectly fine.

 

[haraldo]

I don't think they show it in the video. He was a little shaken, but otherwise perfectly fine.

How is that possible, going through the engine.......

 

[Alamar]

There are three major problems with trying to use wormholes for space travel.
The first is that, while we don't know where the nearest wormhole is yet, we do know that it is outside the solar system and would therefore take years to reach.
The second is that we don't know what is on the other end, or even if it has an other end.
The third (and probably the biggest) is that wormholes, black holes, and other such cosmic-scale phenomena are incredibly violent. Us trying to pass through one would be like a housefly trying to pass through a turbojet engine!

What point are you trying to make?? If you're saying that we're unlikely to do this in our lifetimes or within the next few centuries you won't get a lot of arguement out of me.

If you're trying to say "FTL travel won't possibly work" then you'll excuse me if we continue to try

 

[haraldo]

I'm just not sure what happens first.....
- If pigs may fly
- Or that we may be able to do timetravel

 

[Alamar]

I'm just not sure what happens first.....
- If pigs may fly
- Or that we may be able to do timetravel

If we genetically engineer a pig so that it can fly is it still a pig??


As far as timetravel goes I'm betting there will be something that always gets in the way [likely some sort of quantum level disturbance we can't overcome] ...

 

[jamie2112]

How about a person?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gpPbpONK4

One of the darn est videos I've ever seen.

I have seen that before and it is still amazing to me that guy had a few scratches on him from that.....totally crazy..

 

[Joe Schmoe]

What point are you trying to make?? If you're saying that we're unlikely to do this in our lifetimes or within the next few centuries you won't get a lot of arguement out of me.

If you're trying to say "FTL travel won't possibly work" then you'll excuse me if we continue to try

FTL travel through "normal" space is definitely impossible, and cannot be achieved by any technology. This is made very clear by relativity.
That leaves "warping" of space (such as what occurs in a wormhole) or travel through some (as yet strictly theoretical) "other dimension" as the only viable option.
Use of natural wormholes is ruled out by the observations in my previous post. Perhaps artificial wormholes?

 

[haraldo]

FTL travel through "normal" space is definitely impossible, and cannot be achieved by any technology. This is made very clear by relativity.
That leaves "warping" of space (such as what occurs in a wormhole) or travel through some (as yet strictly theoretical) "other dimension" as the only viable option.
Use of natural wormholes is ruled out by the observations in my previous post. Perhaps artificial wormholes?

70 years ago it was absolutely impossibe to go to the moon, anybody suggesting these things were probably sent to a place where he would be strapped to a bed and treated by men and women wearing white jackets...

Laws of relativity has nothing to do with truth or how space works, it is just the best approximation to how we understand physics right now.... so when relativity states that it's not possible it's just because we don't know enough yet.

The only thing that's impossible come from the barriers that people set in their own minds. One day there will be new understaning that shakes the laws of relativity by its foundation, just as these laws shaked Newton's laws by its foundation. This will open for new possibilities and pigs will fly...

If we genetically engineer a pig so that it can fly is it still a pig??

As far as timetravel goes I'm betting there will be something that always gets in the way [likely some sort of quantum level disturbance we can't overcome] ...

Yes it's still a pig, we just call it a flying pig
this quantum level disturbances is called by another word. wives

 

[Joe Schmoe]

70 years ago it was absolutely impossibe to go to the moon, anybody suggesting these things were probably sent to a place where he would be strapped to a bed and treated by men and women wearing white jackets...

Laws of relativity has nothing to do with truth or how space works, it is just the best approximation to how we understand physics right now.... so when relativity states that it's not possible it's just because we don't know enough yet.

I understand the analogy you are attempting, but it is wrong. Nobody believed, 70 years ago, that the technological challenges of a trip to the moon could be met. It was known, however, that it was possible in theory.
FTL travel is theoretically impossible, not merely impossible in practice. This is because the speed of light is fundamental to the very structure of spacetime itself.
It might be possible to cover great distances by using quirks of spacetime geometry (eg the aforementioned wormholes), but the actual motion will always be slower than light.

 

[haraldo]

I understand the analogy you are attempting, but it is wrong. Nobody believed, 70 years ago, that the technological challenges of a trip to the moon could be met. It was known, however, that it was possible in theory.
FTL travel is theoretically impossible, not merely impossible in practice. This is because the speed of light is fundamental to the very structure of spacetime itself.
It might be possible to cover great distances by using quirks of spacetime geometry (eg the aforementioned wormholes), but the actual motion will always be slower than light.

I see what you mean but how do you know that it's theoretically impossible...
As far as we know today about physics, it is.....

But if there's a 8 dimensional universe, how do we know what's theoretically possible or not.... We still know nothing about the universe.....

The radiation that we measure from all around the edges of the universe, is something that is impossible.... if this radiation should reach us now it would have to travel with twice the speed of light, and that's impossible

So how do we know what's possible or not?

 

[Davemcc]

The radiation that we measure from all around the edges of the universe, is something that is impossible.... if this radiation should reach us now it would have to travel with twice the speed of light, and that's impossible

So how do we know what's possible or not?

I was going to bring that up. Big Bang theory as it stands is impossible according to the theory of relativity. One of them will have to be modified.

 

[haraldo]

I was going to bring that up. Big Bang theory as it stands is impossible according to the theory of relativity. One of them will have to be modified.

I read a theory stating that universe in the beginning was expanding at a rate of 100.000 times the speed of light (or perhaps it was 100 million times the speed of light..... very very big numbers), the only way to explain this.... but according to what we know, this is impossible.....

 

[haraldo]

Tried to read about string theory... tried before, tried again, but I don't understand a single thing of what this is about

And when it comes to the point that the string theory requires that we have an 11 dimensional Universe.... this is too much for me to grasp, anybody who can explain this?