well, with that 75 dollar GC + 5% discount on returning customers ... i'll wait for that new thread asking about a second PB13 :) LOL Mike You read my mind :D I think i'll need a bigger place for another Ultra But im so happy with SVS and my sub that I want to buy another one because I love my Ultra so much and SVS :) I need to save up again though but thats my next HT goal And I want to grow up to be just like you :D