Issue with Iron Man BD

[Pheaton]

Hi all,
I have just received my second copy of Iron Man on BD and there is a missing scene.

It is during track 2, after Tony gets into the Humvee. AC/DC starts playing and you see the convoy start to leave, then a Humvee explodes and we see Tony in a delirious state and then he wakes up in the cave.

That is not how I remember the scene from the theater, Tony jokes around with the soldiers in the Humvee and we see the fire-fight and the exploding missile that damages Tony's heart.

So what is up? Does anyone else have this problem?

It has happened to me on two Iron Man BD disks.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.

And on a different topic, What is up with the Jerico Missile Test! I expected to feel that shock wave as it left my subwoofer, but I felt nothing! No boom! How disappointing

Thanks for any help,

Pheaton

 

[Adam]

Hi, Pheaton. In track 2, it happens just like you describe. The joking around with the soldiers and the firefight/rocket attack happens at the very beginning of the movie - and then the story goes back in time a bit, starts over, and gets back to the humvee attack again in track 2.

 

[j_garcia]

Yep. There is nothing wrong with the disc. The Jericho scene has some decent impact. My sub shakes my couch on that scene, but it isn't one of the best scenes I've heard recently.

 

[jostenmeat]

And on a different topic, What is up with the Jerico Missile Test! I expected to feel that shock wave as it left my subwoofer, but I felt nothing! No boom! How disappointing

Thanks for any help,

Pheaton

As far as I have seen, the TrueHD track on this title has by far the worst implementation of autoflagged DRC. Most T_HD autoflagged DRC implementations are fine enough, but not on this one. Disable it, wherever your bitstream is being unpacked (whether player or receiver).

I can't promise you that you'll be blown out of your seat, but the audio will be night and day.

If you already knew about autoDRC, nm. Just in case you didn't. And if you didn't, no worries with DTSMA or PCM.

 

[MatthewB.]

Pheaton, check your "Dynamic Range Compression" on the Bluray player and the reciever. This movie for some reason has the DRC set to on, which limits the sound. It does it automatically at the start of the movie and has to be manually turned off (in both the player and reciever) if you forget every movie you play afterwards will have the sound limited. And you have to do this every single time you play "Ironman" It's a bummer for sure and was a technical gaff when the Bluray was being engineered. This may explain why you didn't feel the "shockwave"

 

[CraigV]

Pheaton, check your "Dynamic Range Compression" on the Bluray player and the reciever. This movie for some reason has the DRC set to on, which limits the sound. It does it automatically at the start of the movie and has to be manually turned off (in both the player and reciever) if you forget every movie you play afterwards will have the sound limited. And you have to do this every single time you play "Ironman" It's a bummer for sure and was a technical gaff when the Bluray was being engineered. This may explain why you didn't feel the "shockwave"

I have a Panasonic BD55, which I have setup to decode & output all surround modes via analog cables feeding into my pre-amp. I checked this movie when I got home, and at no time did it “switch” to DRC. I stopped the movie in the middle, and checked the settings on the player. Again, DRC was still off.
Since my pre-amp doesn’t decode, it always shows “Multi Input”. Is it different on different players, or does the fact that I have the player setup to decode internally make a difference?

 

[jostenmeat]

I have a Panasonic BD55, which I have setup to decode & output all surround modes via analog cables feeding into my pre-amp. I checked this movie when I got home, and at no time did it “switch” to DRC. I stopped the movie in the middle, and checked the settings on the player. Again, DRC was still off.
Since my pre-amp doesn’t decode, it always shows “Multi Input”. Is it different on different players, or does the fact that I have the player setup to decode internally make a difference?

It appears that some players/receivers have an "OFF" setting that actually sticks. On my Onkyo pre/receiver, it has to be done manually each time, AFAIK. I've stopped caring, but if I ever I'm displeased with TrueHD's DRC, then of course I press a button that's programmed into my URC remote.

Seems as though Panny has an "off" setting that actually sticks then.

 

[j_garcia]

The PS3 has on, auto and off as well. Left on auto, it will detect flagged movies, but off is off.

 

[Pheaton]

Hi,

Gentlemen (and Ladies), I bow to your knowledge.

Hi, Pheaton. In track 2, it happens just like you describe. The joking around with the soldiers and the firefight/rocket attack happens at the very beginning of the movie - and then the story goes back in time a bit, starts over, and gets back to the humvee attack again in track 2.

Ahh, thanks for reminding me that the beginning of the movie is not linear. I have not seen the movie since it was in the theaters.

Pheaton, check your "Dynamic Range Compression" on the Bluray player and the reciever. This movie for some reason has the DRC set to on, which limits the sound. It does it automatically at the start of the movie and has to be manually turned off (in both the player and reciever) if you forget every movie you play afterwards will have the sound limited. And you have to do this every single time you play "Ironman" It's a bummer for sure and was a technical gaff when the Bluray was being engineered. This may explain why you didn't feel the "shockwave"

Thanks, I did check and it was turned on. So I turned it off and watched the scene, much better. But as J Garcia said, I have heard better.

Thanks again to all for the help, it is much appreciated.

Pheaton

 

[I.Canton]

Pheaton, check your "Dynamic Range Compression" on the Bluray player and the reciever. This movie for some reason has the DRC set to on, which limits the sound. It does it automatically at the start of the movie and has to be manually turned off (in both the player and reciever) if you forget every movie you play afterwards will have the sound limited.

You know, I really can't imagine why they set it like this, as it obviously makes for a poorer experience, and people are going to forget to set this each time, especially if they aren't watching the movie constantly.