ok, i found what i want. kinda

[just-some-guy]

this is the right size, configuration, and BAMM factor, i am after. but output would be way more than i need, and that would be just one of em. i want 2. anyway. i searched here, and nothing.
comments ? thanx

the dual ported box. 24x24x18.
http://www.creativesound.ca/pdf/SubDuction-plans-290307.pdf

would end up looking pretty much like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/blonzz/DUELS038.jpg

 

[alexwakelin]

The second one looks like an Epik Conquest, a pretty awesome sub from what I hear. IIRC, the Epik is an 18" sub though. You plans look to be a scale model of the Epik.

 

[krzywica]

this is the right size, configuration, and BAMM factor, i am after. but output would be way more than i need, and that would be just one of em. i want 2. anyway. i searched here, and nothing.
comments ? thanx

the dual ported box. 24x24x18.
http://www.creativesound.ca/pdf/SubDuction-plans-290307.pdf

would end up looking pretty much like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/blonzz/DUELS038.jpg

Sure man looks awesome!! Can you make me one while you are at it.

 

[lsiberian]

this is the right size, configuration, and BAMM factor, i am after. but output would be way more than i need, and that would be just one of em. i want 2. anyway. i searched here, and nothing.
comments ? thanx

the dual ported box. 24x24x18.
http://www.creativesound.ca/pdf/SubDuction-plans-290307.pdf

would end up looking pretty much like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/blonzz/DUELS038.jpg

I would be interested in seeing the FR of that design. What drivers are you planning to use?

 

[just-some-guy]

well, i just found that late last night. so i am still checking it out.
its towards the bottom.
http://www.creativesound.ca/

 

[just-some-guy]

i was thinkin today. i would almost be happy with 4 sub120's. lol. but, i am buying good gear, so i good subs. i never thought this would be so difficult.

 

[alexwakelin]

i was thinkin today. i would almost be happy with 4 sub120's. lol. but, i am buying good gear, so i good subs. i never thought this would be so difficult.

If you are having second thoughts about DIY, for the price of 4 sub 120s you could get an SVS sub, or have a local car audio shop or cabinet maker build the cabinet for your DIY sub(s).

 

[annunaki]

i was thinkin today. i would almost be happy with 4 sub120's. lol. but, i am buying good gear, so i good subs. i never thought this would be so difficult.

It is only diffcult if you want it to be.

There are crazy complex DIY solutions, as well as very simple ones.

Many people want the performance of DIY but are unwilling to educate themselves to understand how simple many designs really are. Reading a couple of books and a few good forums is not too much to ask to save one's self hundreds or thousands of dollars down the road.

I would get a handle on enclosure design & contruction first. With this skill, others can recommend solid driver designs.

Then start looking into what makes a good driver and what to look for there.

Patience is a virture. In a "need/want it now" society it is also a rare attribute.

 

[just-some-guy]

If you are having second thoughts about DIY, for the price of 4 sub 120s you could get an SVS sub, or have a local car audio shop or cabinet maker build the cabinet for your DIY sub(s).

sure. but i want 2. building the cabinet is not a problem, i have done it before.
its finding what i want.

 

[just-some-guy]

It is only diffcult if you want it to be.

There are crazy complex DIY solutions, as well as very simple ones.

Many people want the performance of DIY but are unwilling to educate themselves to understand how simple many designs really are. Reading a couple of books and a few good forums is not too much to ask to save one's self hundreds or thousands of dollars down the road.

I would get a handle on enclosure design & contruction first. With this skill, others can recommend solid driver designs.

Then start looking into what makes a good driver and what to look for there.

Patience is a virture. In a "need/want it now" society it is also a rare attribute.

thats easy for you to say. for me to do it your way, i would be spending months on this. and at that, i still may not get it right.

 

[MidnightSensi]

thats easy for you to say. for me to do it your way, i would be spending months on this. and at that, i still may not get it right.

I just made my first DIY subwoofer recently, and its a very rewarding experience the first time you power it up. But, the underrated enjoyment of it is the process of building the subwoofer. Looking at designs, deciding on your goals, drivers, reading stuff, etc.

DIY isn't really more cost effective in a cost-benefit outlook. I mean, if you worked rather than build a subwoofer it would probably pay off more. Where it does pay off is that you can build exactly what you want (not to many people want a giant subwoofer, so companies don't build them and make comprimises you don't care about as a die-hard enthusiast) and you get to be involved in the process of it.

 

[just-some-guy]

DIY isn't really more cost effective in a cost-benefit outlook. I mean, if you worked rather than build a subwoofer it would probably pay off more. Where it does pay off is that you can build exactly what you want (not to many people want a giant subwoofer, so companies don't build them and make comprimises you don't care about as a die-hard enthusiast) and you get to be involved in the process of it.

yup, thats it. well said.

so far. i am thinking i will build 2 of the shiva dual port box's and put the infinity drivers in them. idk yet.

 

[annunaki]

thats easy for you to say. for me to do it your way, i would be spending months on this. and at that, i still may not get it right.

That is my point. Jumping in without a solid plan or educating one's self is not the way to go about DIY in any hobby.

I am not trying to discourage anyone, in fact, I hope to help prevent some from getting frustrated.

I will admit that many of my projects are not simple for most beginner DIY's, but they yield excellent performance if the woodworking ability is there.

 

[annunaki]

DIY isn't really more cost effective in a cost-benefit outlook. I mean, if you worked rather than build a subwoofer it would probably pay off more. Where it does pay off is that you can build exactly what you want (not to many people want a giant subwoofer, so companies don't build them and make comprimises you don't care about as a die-hard enthusiast) and you get to be involved in the process of it.

That is in the eye of the beholder. As one's knowledge base & experience grows, the cost/benefit goes up exponentially.

I am sure you learned a lot from your experience, and it would go much better the next time around, yes??

 

[MidnightSensi]

That is in the eye of the beholder. As one's knowledge base & experience grows, the cost/benefit goes up exponentially.

I am sure you learned a lot from your experience, and it would go much better the next time around, yes??

I'm not saying I didn't gain a lot from it, I really really enjoyed it and want to do many more.

Also, I could cut the wood and do everything pretty quick, because my shop is already outfitted with wood (I had to order the birch ply though because I use other stuff), saws, sealant, routers, etc. To build the actual box only took me an evening because I've been doing stuff like this for years. But, by the time you add in finding the driver, designing, reading, bullshitting, going back and forth, buying toys, etc. etc. the benefit is the process and enjoyment more than saving the money on the subwoofer. Also, depending on how much money you make, it can start to be difficult to justify the time if you don't look at it as a hobby, if you do, then its well justified.. That's all I'm saying.

 

[just-some-guy]

I'm not saying I didn't gain a lot from it, I really really enjoyed it and want to do many more.

Also, I could cut the wood and do everything pretty quick, because my shop is already outfitted with wood (I had to order the birch ply though because I use other stuff), saws, sealant, routers, etc. To build the actual box only took me an evening because I've been doing stuff like this for years. But, by the time you add in finding the driver, designing, reading, bullshitting, going back and forth, buying toys, etc. etc. the benefit is the process and enjoyment more than saving the money on the subwoofer. Also, depending on how much money you make, it can start to be difficult to justify the time if you don't look at it as a hobby, if you do, then its well justified.. That's all I'm saying.

agreed. most people just want a GOOD sub, while saving some bucks. but nearly every one of them, if they had the choice = build a sub, or work overtime and buy a sub. would work overtime, if they could. and many of them would come out ahead by working overtime. me, i could buy 1 NICE sub, so far. and i have yet to cut 1 piece of wood for a diy.

side note. home depot has 3/4" 4x8 birch for $30. oh, and my amp should be here any time now

 

[lsiberian]

I'm not saying I didn't gain a lot from it, I really really enjoyed it and want to do many more.

Also, I could cut the wood and do everything pretty quick, because my shop is already outfitted with wood (I had to order the birch ply though because I use other stuff), saws, sealant, routers, etc. To build the actual box only took me an evening because I've been doing stuff like this for years. But, by the time you add in finding the driver, designing, reading, bullshitting, going back and forth, buying toys, etc. etc. the benefit is the process and enjoyment more than saving the money on the subwoofer. Also, depending on how much money you make, it can start to be difficult to justify the time if you don't look at it as a hobby, if you do, then its well justified.. That's all I'm saying.

Well there is a reason we come to this forum.

It's a real hobby for most folks here. If you don't want this hobby then by all means don't DIY.

Still there is nothing like putting the first cuts into the wood. Or routing the holes for the first time(my favorite part so far.)

Or getting to buy something most people would never use in their home theater.