Obama ends program that let pilots carry guns

[Rickster71]

Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns.
http://www.airportbusiness.com/online/article.jsp?id=26750&siteSection=1

 

[markw]

Don't you know?

Now that Obama is running the show, terrorists won't be attacking us anymore.

 

[tcarcio]

OH NO, don't call them terrorists, they call them man made disasters now. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings............

 

[Matt34]

OH NO, don't call them terrorists, they call them man made disasters now. Wouldn't want to hurt their feelings............

You can thank my ex-Governor for that one.

 

[Tomorrow]

Good idea. You never know when a Pistol Packin' Pilot will go berserk and shoot up a 737 control console.

 

[JLMEMT]

Great! Chalk another one up for stupidity !

 

[mtrycrafts]

Good idea. You never know when a Pistol Packin' Pilot will go berserk and shoot up a 737 control console.

I believe that one handgun was discharged in the cockpit already by a pilot.
I think it was still on the tarmac.

 

[Tomorrow]

I believe that one handgun was discharged in the cockpit already by a pilot.
I think it was still on the tarmac.

"Already"?! Well there you go then. QED.

Of course if anyone were still alive from those 4 aircraft that crashed on 9/11, they might have a more forceful argument for you, mtry.

 

[Alex2507]

I think we would be better off training gun slingers to fly planes than the other way around.
Take Tomorrow's avatar for instance ...

The only thing pilots are good at is flying planes and banging stewardesses.
That's enough of a hassle.

 

[mike c]

i think the undercover marshalls are a better deterrent.

 

[Tomorrow]

i think the undercover marshalls are a better deterrent.

They're only on a limited number of flights.

 

[mike c]

They're only on a limited number of flights.

yeah, but we don't know on which plane they are

i'd be scared if i were a terrorist

 

[Rickster71]

The only thing pilots are good at is flying planes and banging stewardesses.
That's enough of a hassle.

My understanding is that most pilots are ex-military pilots, and have had extensive firearm training.

 

[Alex2507]

I was really only interested in talking about banging stewardesses but have now been forced to read the article. Yes 70% of the pilots have military experience. It doesn't talk about the gun toting ones in particular but they are clearly a well behaved group.

The interesting thing is that the required safety program is being ended but the pilots already carrying will be left alone. It seems like someone just needs to take a closer look at this and stop the nonsense. Maybe we could get down to the bottom of who came up with this brainstorm and ask them what they were thinking. If they can't come up with reasonable reasons for this retarded idea, we take away their right to wear ties. That's right, ties. Don't important people look down their noses at the tie-less masses?

I think it's important to consider that this type of 'stuff' is happening on Obama's watch but it's not like he's personally responsible for every stupid thing that happens. Let's just go back to bashing republicans and if need be we can surely continue observing Bush. It's not like he's going to stop being an idiot any time soon.

YEAH !!!

 

[rnatalli]

We need to stop arming everyone and start preventing terrorists from getting on planes to begin with. Even with an armed pilot, people will surely be hurt in the case of a showdown. That said, I disagree with Obama on this one as no alternative was offered.

 

[krzywica]

My understanding is that most pilots are ex-military pilots, and have had extensive firearm training.

The vast majority of the ex-military pilots have little to no combat experience as most of them were "heavies" pilots in the military. They were also all officers in their respective branches which makes them in my experience the bottom of the barrel when it comes to winning a fight. Most of those pilots are complete idiots and do not have a thorough understanding of anything except reading pre/post flight checklists.

Oh and their small arms training consists of shooting a paper target 20 feet away with a 9mm once a year. Not the most bad a$$ training regiment if I ever saw one.

 

[Gaigebacca]

Obama is slowly chipping away at the 2nd Ammendment... with small little things like this at first... that no one really notices... until before you know it... the only thing left is a complete banning of personal firearm use... This change, as well as the change in letting private companies buy spent military brass... so there go ammo rates... climbing even higher... By the end of his term, deer hunting will most likely be outlawed... unless you want to try and kill one with a rock... but then ofcourse you would have to deal with PETA screaming in your ear about how it is a "slow and painful, tortuous death..." This Administration makes me sick to my stomach... no, I will not say that Bush was that fantastic either... but so many people want to sit here and be arm-chair-presidents... when we only know less than 10% most likely of what went on behind closed doors of his 8 year tenure. You really cannot judge a presidency until well after it has long past, 5-10 year minimum. It seems to be that Democrats want everyone to be entitled to their opinion, but not entitled to their own safety... we should leave that up to someone else that is 99% of the time miles and minutes away from when and where you need them.

/Mild rant over...

~Proud, safe, and secure owner of multiple firearms...

 

[Rickster71]

Most of those pilots are complete idiots and do not have a thorough understanding of anything except reading pre/post flight checklists.

Can you offer any more info on your quoted opinion?
I wouldn't think the government, or commercial airlines would allow idiots to fly their multi million dollar planes.
Please share some of your info.


I don't think combat experience has much to do with this.
It's the firearms training that counts. If that training is from 20 feet away as you say, it's 17 feet more than he or she will need.
So when someone tries to break into the flight deck, and the fact that the pilot wants to see his wife and kids the next day, I'll bet he'll do the right thing.

 

[tcarcio]

The vast majority of the ex-military pilots have little to no combat experience as most of them were "heavies" pilots in the military. They were also all officers in their respective branches which makes them in my experience the bottom of the barrel when it comes to winning a fight. Most of those pilots are complete idiots and do not have a thorough understanding of anything except reading pre/post flight checklists.

Oh and their small arms training consists of shooting a paper target 20 feet away with a 9mm once a year. Not the most bad a$$ training regiment if I ever saw one.

So what your saying is that you would rather crash into a building than have someone in the cockpit that might just be able to give you a chance? I will take my chances with the pilot with the gun and even though he might not be a sharpshooter I don't think he needs to be one seeing how his target will only be 4 feet away.

 

[rnatalli]

Do people honestly believe that a clever terrorist will come crashing through the cockpit door rather than figuring out how to get through calmly by threatening a flight attendant to open the door or other method? On top of that, who will fly the plane if the pilots are all killed in a shootout? Stopping terrorists before they get on the plane is the only thing that makes sense.