captiankirk28

Full Audioholic
Well SVS teamed up with Audyssey and came up with this new sub eq it is supposed to be great for tuning in your sub (or subs) for your room and pre orders are now going on.
I think i am going to get one and try it out, has anyone have any oppinions on this new sub eq.
Pre Order price is $699 and than they will go up to $799
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Thanks for the note! I've been waiting for this, but I was busy this week and forgot to check their news page.

Up to 32 measurement positions. Awesome! I'll be giving this some serious consideration.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
IMO, the 32 measurement locations should still be used for the two main seats.

things like: left ear, right ear, center of head, chest area x 4 for slouching, sitting up, a bit to the left, a bit to the right x 2 seats :) screw the visitors :)

the automatic phase adjustment for dual subs is a + for me though :)

i got to see this in action last january in vegas. ed mullen himself was demo'ing.
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Eh, I guess it's great for those too lazy to measure/program for themselves. :)

Seems a bit costly, though...

-Chris
 
Chopin_Guy

Chopin_Guy

Senior Audioholic
This looks like a great unit...certaily seems more powerful than the SMS-1 one. Although I was suprised to see that this unit only has output for 2 subs....whats the deal with that?? Does it let you calibrate/control each seperately?? If so that would be amazing...
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
This looks like a great unit...certaily seems more powerful than the SMS-1 one. Although I was suprised to see that this unit only has output for 2 subs....whats the deal with that?? Does it let you calibrate/control each seperately?? If so that would be amazing...
It doesn't really LET you do anything.... it does it all on its own and you can track its performance. But yes they are handling 2 discreet subwoofers combining them as 1 in the end result, which is great for people with only 2 subs.

I think it will be a nice product for the masses that don't like to tweek or delve into the depths of setting up a system with multiple subs. Personally I don't mind doing the work, but at the same time depending on wht you are employing for EQ, you still aren't correcting and processing the "whole room", more like individual points in the room... which may not be beneficial for all listeners. I look forward to how this unit pans out, but I will still be unable to deploy it for myself with my quad subs.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
The Behringer DCX still has to be the best thing out there.

The SMS-1 does a nice job, is simple and now cheap!

The SVS sounds interesting but I wish they would have done OSD.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I do want one, but $2200 is a little rich for me.

[After all, I'd need to get another Ultra to really use it. :)]
 
E

Exit

Audioholic Chief
I think the key to understanding this new SVS/Audyssey equalizer is in the intended market, for which it was built.

SVS states, "But this still affordable box is the best way to optimize any sub, even big "do it yourself" (DIY) subwoofers, virtually eliminating room factors that distort sound. Entry level customers with limited audio budgets might decide instead to just get a good current AV receiver offering less-robust correction systems to economize. No AVR-based room correction system has the sheer refinement and processing horsepower, nor can it cope with dual subs nearly as well. Leave the AS-EQ1 as an upgrade on par with any consideration you put towards dual subs, or investing in any world-class sub from SVS such as our PB13-Ultra and PC13-Ultra, or top subs from elsewhere."

Current A/V receivers with Audyssey equalization cover the entire sound spectrum while the new SVS equalizer specializes in just subwoofer bass. The subwoofer signal path is where the SVS equalizer can be inserted, which fits with an aftermarket equalizer. The bass region does appear to be the greatest benefit of Audyssey equalization. Even the Onkyo 606 with a limited 2eq Audyssey system I could hear a marked improvement in bass with the Audyssey system turned on. If you want to learn more how Audyssey works in general with A/V receivers, you can read the official Audyssey thread in the AVS Forum, which is very long. One member of the Audyssey development team (Chris) provides a lot of answers and insight into Audyssey.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421

One of the recurring themes is that Audyssey provides a flat frequency response through the subwoofer region and apparently a lot of owners prefer a "house curve" for their subwoofer. If you add an equalizer to get a house curve, then you mess up the Audyssey correction for the time domain. It would be interesting to know if SVS permits a house curve while still maintaining time alignment. I think that would sell a lot of people on the SVS version.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Great link on Audessy!
I think the key to understanding this new SVS/Audyssey equalizer is in the intended market, for which it was built.

SVS states, "But this still affordable box is the best way to optimize any sub, even big "do it yourself" (DIY) subwoofers, virtually eliminating room factors that distort sound. Entry level customers with limited audio budgets might decide instead to just get a good current AV receiver offering less-robust correction systems to economize. No AVR-based room correction system has the sheer refinement and processing horsepower, nor can it cope with dual subs nearly as well. Leave the AS-EQ1 as an upgrade on par with any consideration you put towards dual subs, or investing in any world-class sub from SVS such as our PB13-Ultra and PC13-Ultra, or top subs from elsewhere."

Current A/V receivers with Audyssey equalization cover the entire sound spectrum while the new SVS equalizer specializes in just subwoofer bass. The subwoofer signal path is where the SVS equalizer can be inserted, which fits with an aftermarket equalizer. The bass region does appear to be the greatest benefit of Audyssey equalization. Even the Onkyo 606 with a limited 2eq Audyssey system I could hear a marked improvement in bass with the Audyssey system turned on. If you want to learn more how Audyssey works in general with A/V receivers, you can read the official Audyssey thread in the AVS Forum, which is very long. One member of the Audyssey development team (Chris) provides a lot of answers and insight into Audyssey.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=795421

One of the recurring themes is that Audyssey provides a flat frequency response through the subwoofer region and apparently a lot of owners prefer a "house curve" for their subwoofer. If you add an equalizer to get a house curve, then you mess up the Audyssey correction for the time domain. It would be interesting to know if SVS permits a house curve while still maintaining time alignment. I think that would sell a lot of people on the SVS version.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
It doesn't really LET you do anything.... it does it all on its own and you can track its performance. But yes they are handling 2 discreet subwoofers combining them as 1 in the end result, which is great for people with only 2 subs.
Hey Warp, I know you started the AVS thread on this product, so I guess best to ask you. :) Are you pretty sure about your thoughts here? When I think outboard computer, I think Audyssey Pro, then I think of multiple target curves, if not even something more flexible. Maybe not...

I think it will be a nice product for the masses that don't like to tweek or delve into the depths of setting up a system with multiple subs. Personally I don't mind doing the work, but at the same time depending on wht you are employing for EQ, you still aren't correcting and processing the "whole room", more like individual points in the room... which may not be beneficial for all listeners. I look forward to how this unit pans out, but I will still be unable to deploy it for myself with my quad subs.
If I ever get a second sub, this unit would be perfect for someone like me. So, I'd have to consider the combined cost. :eek::eek::eek:

*I've been very curious about this unit. I've held off on a SMS1 forever, and this was part of the reason.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Hey Warp, I know you started the AVS thread on this product, so I guess best to ask you. :) Are you pretty sure about your thoughts here? When I think outboard computer, I think Audyssey Pro, then I think of multiple target curves, if not even something more flexible. Maybe not...

If I ever get a second sub, this unit would be perfect for someone like me. So, I'd have to consider the combined cost. :eek::eek::eek:

*I've been very curious about this unit. I've held off on a SMS1 forever, and this was part of the reason.

I'm pretty sure that they have been pretty clear about the fact this unit is not tweakable.... does that make it any less powerful? doubt it... This is going to be a fantastic unit if you have 2 subs. it will likely have a pretty powerful processor but the good news is that it doesn't have to work the entire freq range, so that makes it much easier to implement. But also remember and this is important... it is supposed to work in the time domain as well, and targeting multiple locations, which is something that very few products will have the ability to tame that issue.

I think it will be a great unit for dual subs... Still looking forward to hearing their solution for multiple subs... :)
 
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