Where is OPPO's Blu-ray?

[Gov]

I'll wait until its under $200 next year at this time

 

[Alex2507]

I'll wait until its under $200 next year at this time

I think it was Supervj, billyp or some other Canadian that pointed out that Oppo prices haven't ever done that drop thing.

 

[Pyrrho]

I'll wait until its under $200 next year at this time

Oppo doesn't tend to drop their prices. They may come out with a cheaper, lessor model that isn't as good, but they are unlikely to ever sell the BDP-83 for less than the initial price.

 

[Rickster71]

In another thread Jostenmeat and Alex mentioned a great idea.
Getting a bunch of us together and doing a group buy, and perhaps negotiating a better price.

 

[pearsall001]

In another thread Jostenmeat and Alex mentioned a great idea.
Getting a bunch of us together and doing a group buy, and perhaps negotiating a better price.

Are you serious? A group buy...please say you're kidding. I for one feel the asking price to be in line for the features, build quality, CS, & overall product performance. From what I gather when Oppo releases a new unit it's very well thought out & out performs the majority of players out there regardless of price.

As far as their CS goes, I have the original model OPDV971H that I bought back in 3/06. The unit has performed flawlessly...except as of last week the remote stopped working (yes, I put fresh batteries in). I quick call to Oppo & a new replacement was received in 3 days. The only charge was $5.00 to cover shipping. Excellent CS in my book.

 

[Alex2507]

Yeah Rick, Puh-lease. Why would you want to pay less?

Division has reared it's ugly head in New Jersey.

 

[Rickster71]

Are you serious? A group buy...please say you're kidding. I for one feel the asking price to be in line for the features, build quality, CS, & overall product performance.

Silly for me to think it's bad paying MSRP for electronics, that go obsolete faster than dog years.

Yeah Rick, Puh-lease. Why would you want to pay less?

Division has reared it's ugly head in New Jersey.

I know..... we have 'maybe' 4 members in NJ.
Oh, and that's the USSR of NJ, if you please.

 

[pearsall001]

Silly...not in the least. The only drawback is that the ID companies are already less expensive than B&M stores because of their business model (no middleman). Unless you catch them when they run a sale or hit the 'gon to pick one up used you're pretty much at a disadvantage.

Hey, if you can pull off a group buy...I'm in!!!

 

[Gov]

Oppo doesn't tend to drop their prices. They may come out with a cheaper, lessor model that isn't as good, but they are unlikely to ever sell the BDP-83 for less than the initial price.

Its a racket I say!!!

 

[Rickster71]

Silly...not in the least. The only drawback is that the ID companies are already less expensive than B&M stores because of their business model (no middleman).

It's all relative.
Most products are marked up 40 to 50 %.
Even though OPPO has no middle man, their products are still marked up.
The middle man would just add to the initial fifty.
They do deserve to recoup their R&D costs; though once that is done, at some point they will be making much more than 50% profit.

 

[pearsall001]

It's all relative.
Most products are marked up 40 to 50 %.
Even though OPPO has no middle man, their products are still marked up.
The middle man would just add to the initial fifty.
They do deserve to recoup their R&D costs; though once that is done, at some point they will be making much more than 50% profit.

I take it you don't own your own business. Maybe Oppo should just ask us how much profit they're allowed to make. After all they are in business to make money, how much they make is none of our business. If a consumer doesn't like the price...don't buy the product. If the product is priced out of whack, then the company will suffer & then they'll make adjustments.

 

[Rickster71]

I take it you don't own your own business.

I'll PM you, with that info.

Maybe Oppo should just ask us how much profit they're allowed to make. After all they are in business to make money, how much they make is none of our business. If a consumer doesn't like the price...don't buy the product. If the product is priced out of whack, then the company will suffer & then they'll make adjustments.

I started with a major telecommunications co. in 1985.
Doing circuit board design and reverse engineering.
I would take a competitors office phone system, disassemble it and go over it component by component, to determine how much it cost them to manufacture.

I found out then, just how nebulous MSRP was.


The issue of price is a knife that cuts both ways, I'm afraid.
In a recession, OPPO (or any company for that matter) would be foolish to stick to full MSRP.
A product may have a potential to make the full 50% mark-up; but if that product sits, unsold in a warehouse, it's worth near nothing.
Better to sell it at 20% profit, than not at all.

 

[bluegrassbubba]

With all the people posting here and elsewhere about this unit, I don't think selling them will be a problem.

 

[Rickster71]

With all the people posting here and elsewhere about this unit, I don't think selling them will be a problem.

I agree; the OPPO was just the topic at hand.

Generally speaking, a company, a car dealer, or even a home owner selling their own home, can't expect to get full price during a recession.

 

[WATCHIN]

get the thing to market already or this thread is going to keep going until then


just tell me where i have to sned the $ and lets get going.

 

[Soundman]

I'll PM you, with that info.



I started with a major telecommunications co. in 1985.
Doing circuit board design and reverse engineering.
I would take a competitors office phone system, disassemble it and go over it component by component, to determine how much it cost them to manufacture.

I found out then, just how nebulous MSRP was.


The issue of price is a knife that cuts both ways, I'm afraid.
In a recession, OPPO (or any company for that matter) would be foolish to stick to full MSRP.
A product may have a potential to make the full 50% mark-up; but if that product sits, unsold in a warehouse, it's worth near nothing.
Better to sell it at 20% profit, than not at all.

This Oppo player is an extremely fair price. Of course there is a markup or they would not be in business long, but their products are an excellent value. There are only a couple true universal players that I know of, the Denon being one, and it's $2,800 the last time I checked. They aren't going to have any problem selling it for the $500-$600 asking price. Recession or no recession, they will be flying off the shelf, IMO.

 

[Rickster71]

get the thing to market already or this thread is going to keep going until then


just tell me where i have to sned the $ and lets get going.

Last I heard was March.
That seems like a long time away.

 

[Pyrrho]

I'll PM you, with that info.



I started with a major telecommunications co. in 1985.
Doing circuit board design and reverse engineering.
I would take a competitors office phone system, disassemble it and go over it component by component, to determine how much it cost them to manufacture.

I found out then, just how nebulous MSRP was.


The issue of price is a knife that cuts both ways, I'm afraid.
In a recession, OPPO (or any company for that matter) would be foolish to stick to full MSRP.
A product may have a potential to make the full 50% mark-up; but if that product sits, unsold in a warehouse, it's worth near nothing.
Better to sell it at 20% profit, than not at all.

Not every company has a grossly inflated MSRP. Sure, Oppo will be making a profit at whatever price they set; that is, after all, the whole point of being in business. You can be sure that they will not drop the price to lose money so that they can please people who are accustomed to MSRP being just some arbitrarily high number. Their flagship DVD player, which sold for about $400, was independently tested and rated to be better than DVD players that cost several thousand dollars. If you think paying MSRP is a bad deal for such a player, then don't buy. Go ahead and buy on sale at half price someone else's crappy player that retails for many times more that isn't as good.

With Oppo, the MSRP is a reasonable price, not some inflated number used as a marketing gimmick to con people into believing it is better than it is. With Oppo, the price is the price. If you want to get a lessor player, feel free to buy a lessor player. If you want to "get a deal" on a player that has an inflated MSRP, go ahead. Just remember, at the end of the day, the bang for the buck is what counts, not how much off "MSRP" one pays.

Oppo will stick to MSRP because they put out a product that is better than anything else you can buy for the same dollars as a "street price" for other brands. If you don't agree, then don't buy an Oppo.

 

[Rickster71]

No argument from me as to the quality of an OPPO product.

This thread went off the rails after I mentioned getting members together and possibly making a group purchase.

 

[TRT]

No argument from me as to the quality of an OPPO product.

This thread went off the rails after I mentioned getting members together and possibly making a group purchase.

I'm in on the group purchase if Oppo will allow it.