Ceiling mount recommendation?

[jostenmeat]

Hey folks, I've never once played with a mount. My PJ is currently on top of a bookshelf, and it works perfectly fine. OTOH, I think I may get a little better rear audio without the bookshelf position, cleaner look, and perhaps most importantly, get an extendable pipe to increase/decrease my retroreflective gain, in accordance with the life of my bulb.

Is there a mount that can have a pipe that is easily retractable, yet easily maintain a perfectly perpendicular orientation to screen? Or is it that every time I retract pipe, I have to carefully re-orient this perpendicular orientation?

I've been told their might be a "mount builder" at PJ central, but haven't found it yet. Any and all recs are welcome, and I do see that Chief seems to be a popular choice.

I don't have a set budget, but I know what a typical one costs. I really would enjoy being able to retract pipe easily, at any time, without having to readjust perpendicular throw adjustment to screen. Ok, I know I will have to play with vertical shift of PJ, but that's pretty darn easy.

THANKS!

 

[mtrycrafts]

Hey folks, I've never once played with a mount. My PJ is currently on top of a bookshelf, and it works perfectly fine. OTOH, I think I may get a little better rear audio without the bookshelf position, cleaner look, and perhaps most importantly, get an extendable pipe to increase/decrease my retroreflective gain, in accordance with the life of my bulb.

Is there a mount that can have a pipe that is easily retractable, yet easily maintain a perfectly perpendicular orientation to screen? Or is it that every time I retract pipe, I have to carefully re-orient this perpendicular orientation?

I've been told their might be a "mount builder" at PJ central, but haven't found it yet. Any and all recs are welcome, and I do see that Chief seems to be a popular choice.

I don't have a set budget, but I know what a typical one costs. I really would enjoy being able to retract pipe easily, at any time, without having to readjust perpendicular throw adjustment to screen. Ok, I know I will have to play with vertical shift of PJ, but that's pretty darn easy.

THANKS!

If you are looking for a retractable projector, look for a projector lift, not cheap. Not sure that there is just a pipe type of lift out there.

 

[BMXTRIX]

There is nothing that I've ever heard of in this regard for what you are looking for. The issue is that while pipes are extremely solid and durable when connected directly to a mounting bracket, if you put them into any sort of moving position, they have to much play in them, and don't have the necessary security that is needed to ensure the entire mechanism doesn't fall on your head.

I've only seen one manufacturer that makes a mount that fits between standard ceiling studs, and it was over a grand.

I wouldn't expect to be able to find a whole lot out there, but check Chief, Premiere, and Peerless to see if there's anything you think will fit your needs.

 

[jostenmeat]

There is nothing that I've ever heard of in this regard for what you are looking for. The issue is that while pipes are extremely solid and durable when connected directly to a mounting bracket, if you put them into any sort of moving position, they have to much play in them, and don't have the necessary security that is needed to ensure the entire mechanism doesn't fall on your head.

Thanks BMX! I see that you are the tried-and-true type. I thought the idea of retracting pipe to increase gain was pretty darn clever, but I sure don't want to hurt the PJ, let alone any viewers . . .

I think I would be fine with just one readjustment per bulb-life. Say, at 500 hrs, I extend pipe .5-1', and say at 650-700 hrs, I can then also put it in high lamp mode. Though with my JVC, there is less difference between low/hi as compared to brands.

I've only seen one manufacturer that makes a mount that fits between standard ceiling studs, and it was over a grand.

I had zero inclination to spend that much, but could you please link it? I'm curious what you are talking about.

I wouldn't expect to be able to find a whole lot out there, but check Chief, Premiere, and Peerless to see if there's anything you think will fit your needs.

Danks. I might call PP later... appreciated guys.

 

[Reorx]

http://www.draperinc.com/Lifts_Mounts_Brackets/VideoProjector_Lifts.htm
http://www.dalite.com/products/index.php?cID=46

You mentioned keeping the projector perpindictular to the screen. Are you talking about when the lamp starts to dim, you move the proj closer to the screen?

I have seen a custom job where a projector was mounted to a pipe+electric motor. And the pipe would move towards or away from the screen, via a remote. It was very stable. Though being a custom job, it was well over $1000.
I have not seen anything simple and cheap.

 

[jostenmeat]

You mentioned keeping the projector perpindictular to the screen. Are you talking about when the lamp starts to dim, you move the proj closer to the screen?

No.

Just up and down. Will do it rarely. However, if I DID find something at an affordable cost that would maintain my, um, perpendicular angle easily, I could then even use it more frequently depending on lighting conditions.

My screen is retro reflective. Therefore, it fires back the image/light back towards the source. This gain gets as high as 3x when directly on-axis, and will drop to about 1x or so at 20 degrees off axis. My wish was to easily control the gain properties depending on the condition of my bulb (or, if I was really lucky, depending on ambient lighting conditions as well).

 

[Reorx]

How high is your ceiling? Do you want motorized or it doesnt matter?

Draper has this. It would be good for vaulted ceilings.
http://www.draperinc.com/Lifts_Mounts_Brackets/SMS_Adj_ProjectorMounts.htm

 

[jostenmeat]

How high is your ceiling?

I believe 7'11"

Do you want motorized or it doesnt matter?

Does not matter.

Draper has this. It would be good for vaulted ceilings.
http://www.draperinc.com/Lifts_Mounts_Brackets/SMS_Adj_ProjectorMounts.htm

Thanks, I'll look into it a bit more later. I am not going to spend a lot though. I'd rather spend on other things.

 

[Reorx]

yeah. understandable.
When I google 'adjustable projector mounts'
A lot of mounts come up under $200. As for which is better then the other...

I dont know. my old work stuck mostly with name brands like draper. Money wasnt to much of a concern.

Sry I can't help you more. GLuck.

 

[Sherardp]

Heres what you need JM,
Made by Chief and sold by Proj People at a great price, the mount is the RPA-U universal mount and future proof as it will work with most PJs out there. The adjustable down pipe is sold in different configs, as shown on the website, you will also need a ceiling mount sold by Chief, heres a few pics

Website Info

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?MountID=71

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=236

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=186

 

[BMXTRIX]

If all you need/want is an extendable pipe, those are available from the usual suspects...

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=236

No motor, no fancies... but it does work. You must tighten hardware fully for it to stabilize, otherwise you can get vibrations pretty easily.

 

[Sherardp]

If all you need/want is an extendable pipe, those are available from the usual suspects...

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=236

No motor, no fancies... but it does work. You must tighten hardware fully for it to stabilize, otherwise you can get vibrations pretty easily.

See my previous post.

 

[jostenmeat]

Heres what you need JM,
Made by Chief and sold by Proj People at a great price, the mount is the RPA-U universal mount and future proof as it will work with most PJs out there. The adjustable down pipe is sold in different configs, as shown on the website, you will also need a ceiling mount sold by Chief, heres a few pics

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?MountID=71

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=236

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=186

If all you need/want is an extendable pipe, those are available from the usual suspects...

http://www.chiefmfg.com/productdetail.aspx?AccessoryID=236

No motor, no fancies... but it does work. You must tighten hardware fully for it to stabilize, otherwise you can get vibrations pretty easily.

Thanks so much. BMX/Sherard, curiously, do you guys find that there is any less vibration of the picture when the PJ is ceiling mounted as opposed to not? I get some every once in a while with a LFE heavy movie cranked up.

Looks great!

 

[Sherardp]

To answer you JM regarding vibration I dont get any vibration in my setup at all, and my PJ has been ceiling mounted since day 1. I cant really speak of a shelf type installation. I run a short 3" down pipe to my PJ as seen in my pics. As for heavy LFE I run dual Plus 2s so if anything were to vibrate I'm sure I would have seen it already. In my ceiling I have my mount, mounted into studs 3' x 4". Nice and sturdy as I could probably remove my PJ and do pullups off the mount.

 

[BMXTRIX]

If you think about it, ceiling mounting is one of the better options. Bass must travel up the wall then through the ceiling to the projector. If you wall mount you are closer to the vibration origination point. If you do get some vibrations currently, then using a good ceiling mount should minimize them.

 

[rmk]

Thanks so much. BMX/Sherard, curiously, do you guys find that there is any less vibration of the picture when the PJ is ceiling mounted as opposed to not? I get some every once in a while with a LFE heavy movie cranked up.

Looks great!

Hi Meat ,

I have my HD-100 (RS2) ceiling mounted (Chief) and as I think you know, I have quite a bit of bass output in the room. I do not notice any shakin going on with the projected image. I even have one of the pipe extenders (18") which would exacerbate any movement and again, it seems rock solid.

 

[jostenmeat]

Hi Meat ,

I have my HD-100 (RS2) ceiling mounted (Chief) and as I think you know, I have quite a bit of bass output in the room. I do not notice any shakin going on with the projected image. I even have one of the pipe extenders (18") which would exacerbate any movement and again, it seems rock solid.

Thanks much, rmk. I've been having second thoughts. Track lighting, ac vent will have to be carefully considered, and it seems that the PJ will be pretty darn close to directly over second row's head. The heads are actually pretty high, and I'm afraid too close to PJ, especially if I ever extend pipe to increase retroreflective gain (which was the #1 benefit with ceiling mount, for me).

Hm. But that's great to know! Even with 4 JLs or 2 Spuds, eh! Crap, my single JL was flexing a window at the opposite end of the home recently.

 

[rmk]

Thanks much, rmk. I've been having second thoughts. Track lighting, ac vent will have to be carefully considered, and it seems that the PJ will be pretty darn close to directly over second row's head. The heads are actually pretty high, and I'm afraid too close to PJ, especially if I ever extend pipe to increase retroreflective gain (which was the #1 benefit with ceiling mount, for me).

Hm. But that's great to know! Even with 4 JLs or 2 Spuds, eh! Crap, my single JL was flexing a window at the opposite end of the home recently.

I wouldn't think you would need that much gain. Is you room white or do you have poor light control? Your RS1 is brighter than my RS2 and my 1.0 (if it is even that) Elite screen looks pretty bright even with my white ceiling and large crown molding.

 

[jostenmeat]

I wouldn't think you would need that much gain. Is you room white or do you have poor light control? Your RS1 is brighter than my RS2 and my 1.0 (if it is even that) Elite screen looks pretty bright even with my white ceiling and large crown molding.

You're right rmk. The pic is disgusting. I recently recalibrated, and it's awesome all over again. I have pretty good light control. Half bat-cave. The real reason for gain is because my screen is over 75 sq ft in size. DaLite HP was the real ticket. I've had two first-timers over in the last week. It's always the same, they can't believe a projector can do that. The first said that it doesn't even look like a projector, and he wouldn't know if I didn't tell him. Looks like a 159" plasma, no pixelation, super high fill, disgusting.

We'll see if I ever ceiling mount. We'll see. Probably one day. Still haven't acoustically treated the ceiling either. Who knows.

 

[rmk]

You're right rmk. The pic is disgusting. I recently recalibrated, and it's awesome all over again. I have pretty good light control. Half bat-cave. The real reason for gain is because my screen is over 75 sq ft in size. DaLite HP was the real ticket. I've had two first-timers over in the last week. It's always the same, they can't believe a projector can do that. The first said that it doesn't even look like a projector, and he wouldn't know if I didn't tell him. Looks like a 159" plasma, no pixelation, super high fill, disgusting.

We'll see if I ever ceiling mount. We'll see. Probably one day. Still haven't acoustically treated the ceiling either. Who knows.

That is one big screen. What's the seating distance?

I just installed the Stewart 106" and it looks great but I'm sure puny compared to the 159"