Technical Help!!!!

[Missionman]

hi guys and girls.
I dont know much about amps and speakers, i know the general but not technical.
I am currently running
* Pioneer Main amp
* Pioneer pre-amp
* Pioneer sound image equalizer

was running some make do eltax 190w tall stand speakers but have recently upgraded to a set of Mission M30i bookshelf speakers to run as my main front speakers.

When i run my eltax speakers i get great volume and perfect treble to bass ratio.
But when i connect my missions my volume gets cut down (need it higher to make it sound fairly loud), also my treble to bass ratio is well off put. too much treble and no bass at all, have adjusted all my amp settings but still no good.

I went to my local stereo shop and asked why this is, they said a few things but i cannot work out what it actually is and what i need to do to bring it back to proper sound.
They first said my amp was too powerful for my speakers. my amp is 250w p/ch, my missions are only 75w each.
Secondly they said its due to the db tollerance of my speakers.

I am realy confused and dont know what to do.

Is there anyway of making them sound right?? or is it actually due to what they said, and will i need to buy a less powerful amp??

please help me, its killing me having rubbish sound with my music.

thanks

 

[Missionman]

and have also been told that the speakers need to be worn in before i get the true sounds. is this true?

 

[mtrycrafts]

hi guys and girls.
I dont know much about amps and speakers, i know the general but not technical.
I am currently running
* Pioneer Main amp
* Pioneer pre-amp
* Pioneer sound image equalizer

was running some make do eltax 190w tall stand speakers but have recently upgraded to a set of Mission M30i bookshelf speakers to run as my main front speakers.

When i run my eltax speakers i get great volume and perfect treble to bass ratio.
But when i connect my missions my volume gets cut down (need it higher to make it sound fairly loud), also my treble to bass ratio is well off put. too much treble and no bass at all, have adjusted all my amp settings but still no good.

I went to my local stereo shop and asked why this is, they said a few things but i cannot work out what it actually is and what i need to do to bring it back to proper sound.
They first said my amp was too powerful for my speakers. my amp is 250w p/ch, my missions are only 75w each.
Secondly they said its due to the db tollerance of my speakers.

I am realy confused and dont know what to do.

Is there anyway of making them sound right?? or is it actually due to what they said, and will i need to buy a less powerful amp??

please help me, its killing me having rubbish sound with my music.

thanks

Well, that audio shop gave you the usual urban audio myths, all are false, of course, especially that last one, breaking in

No, your amp is not too powerful and not sure what the guy was thinking about that dB tolerance thing. More voodoo.

You have two distinctly different speakers as that is what gives you the differences in the vast majority of the cases, not the other components.
Not sure what the specs are of either speaker, but it may be that the Mission is less sensitive, perhaps much less sensitive, hence the higher volume control setting on your preamp.

Same goes for the bass and treble balance. You seem to like the older speakers as you are used to them. Why not return the Missions?

 

[Missionman]

ah thanks for that information, great help mate.

hmm, i dont know, i havent got it in me to return the missions haha. i have always loved missions and finally saved up to buy myself them.

My old speakers are crystal clear but come with a little damage. Clip on cable connector lost and a slight split in one of the tweeters. dont affect the performance but i know its there. if you know what i mean. i love my missions, think i will just have to addapt to the sound change.

If i continued to run my missions, would it damage my amp??? i hope not.

thanks mate

 

[skizzerflake]

ah thanks for that information, great help mate.

hmm, i dont know, i havent got it in me to return the missions haha. i have always loved missions and finally saved up to buy myself them.

My old speakers are crystal clear but come with a little damage. Clip on cable connector lost and a slight split in one of the tweeters. dont affect the performance but i know its there. if you know what i mean. i love my missions, think i will just have to addapt to the sound change.

If i continued to run my missions, would it damage my amp??? i hope not.

thanks mate

You won't hurt the Missions as long as you don't crank the volume up real high. The danger is high power bursts from your big amp, which could damage the speakers, but most of the time at reasonable loudness the amp won't producing anywhere near its max. The lack of bottom might be basic to the new speakers. They could have been intended for a system with a sub.

 

[Missionman]

oh right, well i am having to run a sub with them to give me the lower frequency sounds. sounds brilliant with my sub, but to be honest id prefer not to run it. My KEF sub is crystal clear but i prefer my wharfedale sub, but is too lumpy in bass.
The sub seams to rattle my floors so then it distorts the sounds from my speakers