Best hi-fi sound: PC to Receiver with speakers?

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sweetchic

Audiophyte
My goal is to put together a high fi media system for the purpose of home theater, to play movies and music.

For this purpose, I currently obtained:

Dell XPS 420 desktop (no sound card)
HDTV
Sony AV Receiver model # STR-DA4400ES
5.1 Infinity Cascade speakers.

I've been debating getting a high-end sound card vs Benchmark DAC, but when I try to figure out how I would connect the Benchmark DAC to the AV Receiver, I can't find any info on the internet. Is this because AV Receivers already have built-in DACs? If so, then I am confused.

What components do I need to get the highest quality sound from my PC to the Infinity Cascade speakers?:
sound card? (which one?)
or DAC (if so, what cables do I use to connect it to the AV receiver? XLR to coaxial converter?)
 
OttoMatic

OttoMatic

Senior Audioholic
I've been debating getting a high-end sound card vs Benchmark DAC, but when I try to figure out how I would connect the Benchmark DAC to the AV Receiver, I can't find any info on the internet. Is this because AV Receivers already have built-in DACs? If so, then I am confused.
The Benchmark outputs an analog stereo signal. I has stereo L/R outputs that will be connected directly to your receiver.

What components do I need to get the highest quality sound from my PC to the Infinity Cascade speakers?:
sound card? (which one?)
or DAC (if so, what cables do I use to connect it to the AV receiver? XLR to coaxial converter?)
The Benchmark DAC1 has both balanced (XLR) and unbalanced (RCA) connections on it. Connect either of those to your receiver (your receiver will most likely have RCA inputs). That's it.

Connect the PC to the DAC1 using an optical cable or USB if you have the DAC1 that supports USB.
 
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sweetchic

Audiophyte
Does this convert sound to just 2 channel audio? would I not be able to get surround sound? If this is the case, is it better to get an external sound card?
 
OttoMatic

OttoMatic

Senior Audioholic
Does this convert sound to just 2 channel audio? would I not be able to get surround sound? If this is the case, is it better to get an external sound card?
That's right: the Benchmark DAC1 is two-channel only.

I missed one of the questions in your first post -- yes, most current A/V receivers have DACs built in. Unless you're very interested in the particulars of two-channel audio, a DAC isn't something that you really need to worry about. Current receivers will generally accept three types of signal in order to process audio for movies (as well as audio): 1) S/PDIF digital audio (via optical or digital coax connection -- either way, it's a single cable), 2) HDMI, which is a single cable for both audio (and also includes a video signal, which the others won't), 3) multi-channel analog (in this case, you will have a single RCA cable for each audio signal; so, i fyou're doing 5.1, you would have a total of six cables).

If you are shopping for a receiver, most would probably encourage you to get a unit that accepts an HDMI input (preferably, you'd have multiple inputs), and processes the audio portion of the HDMI signal. HDMI is the latest and greatest thing, and uses lossless codecs for the multi-channel audio for movies (when used with a compatible BluRay player, and a properly encoded BluRay disc). In my opinion, the drawbacks to HDMI are compatibility issues, hardware and firmware processing issues, handshaking issues, and any improvement is slight (IMHO). To handle the HDMI video, you would also have to have the right TV (in general, a digital TV with at least on HDMI input). For some of those reasons, I've chosen to stick with the previous version of audio transmission. If you don't have BluRay (or, less likely, HD-DVD), you won't be able to take advantage of any HDMI lossless signals anyway, because those are the only media that offer True-HD and DTS-MA signals (which are the lossless versions).

The S/PDIF signal is the Dobly Digital/DTS 5.1 (or maybe 6.1 w/ DTS) signal transmitted digitally from a DVD or BluRay player to the receiver. This is a fine solution, and works for many, many people. I've never had a connectivity issue using S/PDIF for movies or music.

The third solution -- multi-channel analog connections -- are for those that generally can't process the digital audio for one reason or another. Perhaps they have a BluRay player that will output multi-channel analog, but their receiver won't. In that case, they can send the audio over several independent analog audio lines. Most people would only use this if they had to; it would be preferable to use one of the digital connections.

In either of those digital transmission cases, the receiver will do the digital to analog conversion (DAC). In the multi-channel analog case, the BluRay player will do the DAC (even though the receiver still has DACs in it, they would just not be used).

For your first HTPC, I would suggest going optical S/PDIF out of your PC to your receiver. It's super cheap to get a sound card that will do optical out. I've been doing this for some time with very fer issues (most problems were with HDMI video). See this thread for some more detail on the soundcard business.
 
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sweetchic

Audiophyte
external vs internal sound cards?

I've been reading about something like having an external sound card vs an internal sound card, since an internal sound card will be exposed to the sounds of the computer ("jitter?" or background noise?)?
What do you think about this?
If you recommend an external sound card, which one?
Thanks so much for your help!
 
OttoMatic

OttoMatic

Senior Audioholic
For digital connections, it won't matter. Jitter is essentially zero and digital samples shouldn't be susceptible to noise. Actually, those things can occur, but it's very, very unlikely.

For analog connections, you would have to investigate sound cards. I know that some are poorly engineered and have high noise floors and are susceptible to noise. My on board sound card in my "office" is rather noisy, but it doesn't bother me much in that situation. However, such a noisy device would be unacceptable in my living room. I know that there are good analog sound cards available, but I don't know much about them because I don't really use analog outs on my sound card in my main system.

Go with the digital and you'll be fine. In the future, you may find HDMI to be useful, but I'd just go with the regular optical output for now. Such sound cards shouldn't be very expensive -- probably $20 to $50.
 
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