PS3 Setup

[Rupo77]

I am planning on purchasing a PS3 in the next month or so. The only thing that is holding me up is the other electronics that need to go with it and thus, I am needing some help. First of all, I am looking for a bomber 37" full 1080p LCD TV; any suggestions? Secondly, I'm looking for some sort of sound system to go with this setup - not a "home theater in a box" type of thing that has a dvd player - the PS3 will be my dvd player. Lastly, how would I set up the sound system with the TV in order to get the best sound quality. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[GlocksRock]

First off, before we can recommend anything, we need to have a budget. As far as getting the best sound quality, you would run all your components through an AV receiver, which would power your spekaers, and handle all of the audio and video processing.

 

[Rupo77]

My budget is about $1600.00 not including the PS3

 

[Midcow2]

Budget?

I am planning on purchasing a PS3 in the next month or so. The only thing that is holding me up is the other electronics that need to go with it and thus, I am needing some help. First of all, I am looking for a bomber 37" full 1080p LCD TV; any suggestions? Secondly, I'm looking for some sort of sound system to go with this setup - not a "home theater in a box" type of thing that has a dvd player - the PS3 will be my dvd player. Lastly, how would I set up the sound system with the TV in order to get the best sound quality. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

What is your budget?

Connect PS3 to AVR via HDMI
Connect satellite or cable to AVR via HDMI
Connect AVR to TV via HDMI ( HDMI specs only showu pto 1080i but supports 1080p)

Concentrate on fronts and center. Get them to match for good front Timbre ( seamless front sound). Center is important for voice

Rears are not necessary at first and can be added later; they also don't need to mach front and center.

Subwoofer is for your lower bass sounds ( really good in mivies for earthquakes, explosions and gun shots). The better brands are SVS and hsu although Dayton amkes a good inexpensive sub.

Decide if you was to do video upconverting through AVR.

Anyway depending on how much $$$ you want the spend there are many good solutions.

Good Luck!

MidCow2

edit update: (sorry you hadn't entered your budget when I began composing this response)

 

[GlocksRock]

Ok, with that budget for receiver and speakers, I would reccomend the svs 5.1 bookshelf system with the PB10 sub, http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-sbs_black.cfm

and a RX-V663 receiver http://www.jr.com/yamaha/pe/YAM_RXV663BL/

With the shipping costs on the SVS system, and free shipping on the receiver, you are right at $1600, and you will be blown away at the sound quality, and especially the bass.

Then get all your cables and wiring from either www.monoprice.com or www.firefold.com

 

[Rupo77]

What is your budget?

Connect PS3 to AVR via HDMI
Connect satellite or cable to AVR via HDMI
Connect AVR to TV via HDMI ( HDMI specs only showu pto 1080i but supports 1080p)

Concentrate on fronts and center. Get them to match for good front Timbre ( seamless front sound). Center is important for voice

Rears are not necessary at first and can be added later; they also don't need to mach front and center.

Subwoofer is for your lower bass sounds ( really good in mivies for earthquakes, explosions and gun shots). The better brands are SVS and hsu although Dayton amkes a good inexpensive sub.

Decide if you was to do video upconverting through AVR.

Anyway depending on how much $$$ you want the spend there are many good solutions.

Good Luck!

MidCow2

You make it sound so easy. You should come over to my place and set it up....

 

[GlocksRock]

It really is easy to setup, especially with HDMI, since it carries all the audio and video on one cable.

 

[Rupo77]

I am probably going to buy the LG 37LG60, as it is the only 37" tv with 120hz refresh rate.

 

[GlocksRock]

120 hz. isn't really all that, I definitely wouldn't let it be the dealbreaker.

 

[Rupo77]

120 hz. isn't really all that, I definitely wouldn't let it be the dealbreaker.

What's the difference between 60 hz and 120 hz. Are there any 37" tv's you would recommend? I was stuck between the Samsung ln37a550 and the LG 37LG60. Suggestions?

 

[Rupo77]

My budget including the TV is about $1600.00. Lets say the TV costs $800.00, that leaves me with $800.00 for a sound system. Suggestions now?

 

[jostenmeat]

A 60hz TV still has to apply 3:2 pulldown to 24p based material. Meaning Bluray movies. 120hz TVs don't have to as they can do 5:5. HOWEVER, just make sure that any 120hz tv you buy does NOT still do 3:2 then 2:2, which I find to be utter BS.

Honestly, I'd never buy an LCD, and never one that small. $800 should get you a 50" Panasonic plasma.

How many ft away will you sit?

 

[GlocksRock]

Most 120 hz. tv's just internally double the frame rate, but I can't tell a difference between my 60 hz. and my 120 hz. tv. I really never looked into tv's that small, but I know the samsung tv's are really nice, I would probably go with that... as far as the rest of the system, my original reccomendations pretty much stay the same, with the exception of just getting the front left and right speakers from svs instead of the whole package, and adding the rest of the stuff and funds permit. Unless you want to go the HTIB route, which I would strongly advise against. You would be much better off piecing your system together little by little as you get the funds than to just get low end stuff all up front to begin with.

 

[jostenmeat]

Most 120 hz. tv's just internally double the frame rate, but I can't tell a difference between my 60 hz. and my 120 hz. tv. I really never looked into tv's that small, but I know the samsung tv's are really nice, I would probably go with that...

If you are talking about doubling 60hz, sure, but if its doubling 24p after pulldown, that's too bad and one doesn't have to settle for that. And that would be really awful if "most 120hz tv's" did that.

IIRC, Samsung used to make such displays. Grr.

 

[GlocksRock]

I have seen the samsung 120hz. tv's that make the picture look fake, I don't like the way those look, and those are the native 120 hz. displays. The whole reason for 120 hz. is to reduce motion blur, but go look at a bunch of tv's that do and don't have 120 hz. and I doubt you will notice much difference, which is why I said to not let it be a dealbreaker.

Check out this thread... it explians 120 hz.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=33838

Also check out this thread: Displays that support 1080p/24 signal at multiplies of the original frame rate

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155

 

[Midcow2]

plus one

Ok, with that budget for receiver and speakers, I would reccomend the svs 5.1 bookshelf system with the PB10 sub, http://www.svsound.com/products-sys-sbs_black.cfm

and a RX-V663 receiver http://www.jr.com/yamaha/pe/YAM_RXV663BL/

With the shipping costs on the SVS system, and free shipping on the receiver, you are right at $1600, and you will be blown away at the sound quality, and especially the bass.

Then get all your cables and wiring from either www.monoprice.com or www.firefold.com

Glocks Rock makes a very nice recommendation; I agree!

 

[jostenmeat]

I have seen the samsung 120hz. tv's that make the picture look fake, I don't like the way those look, and those are the native 120 hz. displays. The whole reason for 120 hz. is to reduce motion blur, but go look at a bunch of tv's that do and don't have 120 hz. and I doubt you will notice much difference, which is why I said to not let it be a dealbreaker.

Um, the fake look comes from frame interpolation, a completely separate feature from 120hz frame rate, although these two come bundled together quite often. You don't need either of them with a plasma, for instance. On Samsung, I believe the FI is called auto motion plus or something like that.

There IS a difference between having pulldown applied and not. Sure, some TVs do pulldown much better than others, but one of the best points of having 120hz is that pulldown can be completely avoided. My point was that companies HAVE sold the "buzzword" of 120hz in the past, yet the consumer wasn't even getting the full benefit; still possibly suffering exacerbated judder as a result of poor pulldown.

 

[GlocksRock]

This is the tv I have
http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC46D82U-46-Inch-1080p/dp/B000O7KAOA
it has 120 hz. framerate conversion, and the picture on it is amazing, the picture on my 73" 60hz. mitsubishi is just as good... maybe tv's with native 120 hz. would look better, but I'm not sure how much better it could possibly look, especially when I don't find there to be much blur as it is. But yes, I agree, some tv's do pulldown better than others. On my 73" I let the PS3 do the pulldown, and I also let the tv do the pulldown, I couldn't tell a difference, so I just set the PS3 to auto.

 

[Rupo77]

I'm confused by what a "pull down" is. Looking at the two tvs that I picked out, the Samsung LN37A550 and the LG 37LG60, which one is better. Could someone look at them for me and tell me what they recommend? The style of the LG kind of bugs me with the fat bottom, but if it has better PQ, then I will purchase that tv.

 

[GlocksRock]

pulldown is also known as telecine, just do a google search and read up on it... it has to do with the fact that film is recorded at 24 frames per second (fps) and everything else is 30 fps, so certain frames have to be duplicated in order to make things sync up right. As far as what looks better to you, only you can decide that, so go to the store and check both of them out, and get whichever one you like better.