Help with Receiver

[Dangler]

At my old house, I was running a 5.1 system through my Denon 2105 receiver and running 2 outdoor speakers in Zone 2. I recently moved and my new house already had 2 wall mounted speakers in the family room. So, my brother set up my normal 5 speakers in the living room, plus the two in the famliy room, on Zone 1 and my 2 outdoors on Zone 2. And the receiver promply blew up.

So, I have purchased a new receiver, an Onkyo 805, and would prefer not to kill it. Should I leave the 2 speakers in my family room alone and just stick with my 5.1 set-up in the living room and my 2 outdoors? Help!

Here is my set-up:
Paradigm Studio 20 V3 mains
Paradigm CC 470 V3 center
Paradigm ADP 470 V3 surrounds
Onkyo 805 receiver
Paradigm PS-1000 sub

Boston Acoustics Soundware - outdoors

2 flush mounted speakers in family room-no idea what they are

Thanks!

 

[adk highlander]

Hello Dangler.

If you plan to run both sets of speakers from your zone2 (surround back amp) then you will need at least an impedance matching switch box. You cannot plug both sets of speakers in the the zone 2 out.

I would suggest purchasing an inexpensive amp like an audiosource amp 100 to power them. That amp actually has an A & B speaker outputs so you would not need the switch box.

 

[Dangler]

Can I run all 7 indoor speakers on Zone 1, and just the 2 outdoors on Zone 2?

 

[Midcow2]

Can you explain more about your old receiver blow-up ?

At my old house, I was running a 5.1 system through my Denon 2105 receiver and running 2 outdoor speakers in Zone 2. I recently moved and my new house already had 2 wall mounted speakers in the family room. So, my brother set up my normal 5 speakers in the living room, plus the two in the famliy room, on Zone 1 and my 2 outdoors on Zone 2. And the receiver promply blew up.

So, I have purchased a new receiver, an Onkyo 805, and would prefer not to kill it. Should I leave the 2 speakers in my family room alone and just stick with my 5.1 set-up in the living room and my 2 outdoors? Help!

Here is my set-up:
Paradigm Studio 20 V3 mains
Paradigm CC 470 V3 center
Paradigm ADP 470 V3 surrounds
Onkyo 805 receiver
Paradigm PS-1000 sub

Boston Acoustics Soundware - outdoors

2 flush mounted speakers in family room-no idea what they are

Thanks!

Okay When you hooked up the the tw wall mounted speakers, did you hook them up in addition to other speakers in your 5.1 system? In otherwords did you hook two sets of speakers to the same speaker terminals? If so you in effect put two speakers (probably both 8 ohm) in parallel in effect creating a 4 ohm load, which can cause the fuse or protective circuitry on some receivers to trip. Normally it doesn't blow-up the receiver. If that is what caused the problem and you want to use the speakers in the house; just don't connect two of you Paradigm speakers,probably the Paradigm ADP 470 V3 surrounds.

The other thing to check is to very carefully connect your wires to make sure you don't have a short. That is why banana plugs are good, because the make an easy solid conenction that is virtually assured to be short free.

Good Luck!,

MidCow2

P.S. - This time you might want to consider connecting the speakers yourself with advice from the Audioholic forum

 

[Midcow2]

This is a great solution to connect two sets of speakers

Hello Dangler.

If you plan to run both sets of speakers from your zone2 (surround back amp) then you will need at least an impedance matching switch box. You cannot plug both sets of speakers in the the zone 2 out.

I would suggest purchasing an inexpensive amp like an audiosource amp 100 to power them. That amp actually has an A & B speaker outputs so you would not need the switch box.

Adk provides a great solution!

 

[Midcow2]

Yes

Can I run all 7 indoor speakers on Zone 1, and just the 2 outdoors on Zone 2?

Yes if it is 7.1 receiver and your new Onkyo 805 is

This is the best solution!

MidCow2

 

[adk highlander]

Can I run all 7 indoor speakers on Zone 1, and just the 2 outdoors on Zone 2?

No because you have a total of 9 speakers. 5 in theater, 2 family room, 2 outdoors. Your system will only run a total of 7 speakers so you will need a speaker switch box or an external amp.

 

[Dangler]

Looks like the inexpensive amp is my best bet, thanks!

 

[highfigh]

At my old house, I was running a 5.1 system through my Denon 2105 receiver and running 2 outdoor speakers in Zone 2. I recently moved and my new house already had 2 wall mounted speakers in the family room. So, my brother set up my normal 5 speakers in the living room, plus the two in the famliy room, on Zone 1 and my 2 outdoors on Zone 2. And the receiver promply blew up.

So, I have purchased a new receiver, an Onkyo 805, and would prefer not to kill it. Should I leave the 2 speakers in my family room alone and just stick with my 5.1 set-up in the living room and my 2 outdoors? Help!

Here is my set-up:
Paradigm Studio 20 V3 mains
Paradigm CC 470 V3 center
Paradigm ADP 470 V3 surrounds
Onkyo 805 receiver
Paradigm PS-1000 sub

Boston Acoustics Soundware - outdoors

2 flush mounted speakers in family room-no idea what they are

Thanks!

You need to check the speaker wires for shorts. If it's an AVR-2105 and the family room speakers were on SPKR B, it shouldn't have puked just from what you described. Look at the speaker wires and make sure no strands of wire are touching from positive to negative. Pinched wires will do this, too. So will drywall screws and nails.

 

[zumbo]

Another amp option to run the two extra speakers.
http://www.jr.com/onkyo/pe/ONK_M282/

 

[XEagleDriver]

Go with a Speaker Selector, simple and less $$

Can I run all 7 indoor speakers on Zone 1, and just the 2 outdoors on Zone 2?

No, your 805's manual in the "Zone 2 and Zone 3" section on p. 101 will inform you:

"Connecting Your Zone 2 Speakers Directly to the AV receiver.
This setup allows 5.1-channel playback in your main room and 2-channel stereo playback in Zone 2, with a different source in each room. This is called Powered Zone 2, as the Zone 2 speakers are powered by the AV
receiver."

With that in mind, I recommend hooking up your Zone 2 speaker outputs (not the pre-amp outs) to a speaker selector box. Then hook your family room and outdoor speakers to this box--this is much less expensive than a second amp. There are many available for as little as $35-40 dollars.

FWIW: My home has a situation similar to yours (one receiver powering a main room + 2 deck speakers + 2 porch speakers). I use a SS4 Multi-Speaker Selector from Monster Cable to safely connect the deck and porch speakers. It is available at Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-Cable-SS4-Multi-Speaker-Selector/dp/B00004Y3UX BeachAudio.com also carries several other selectors.

Like many here, I am not a fan of "Monster" as a company (high prices), but this little switch box is inexpensive, had good user reviews, and has worked as advertised for me. It has protection circuitry to keep your Onkyo safe. The operational "cost" of the protection circuitry is a little less volume (relative to the main zone) for your outdoor and family room speakers. But for background "stereo" sound in those locations, it should be just fine. At least it is for me, and my Yamaha 563 receiver is less powerful than your 805.

Good luck,