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ned

Full Audioholic
Would someone who attended SoTu provide comment on Sherwoods new Trinnov Room Correction? Thanks.
 
WINGNUT4772

WINGNUT4772

Audioholic Intern
I'd be interested in hearing that as well. I have my eye on the Outlaw 997 that was recently announced...
 
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jvgillow

Full Audioholic
Here are the comments I posted on the HSU forum (their speakers were used in the Sherwood room)

jvgillow said:
With Trinnov enabled the center channel "position" was supposed to move up to the middle of the screen instead of sounding like it was coming from the physical location of the center speaker (which was below the screen).

What actually happened with Trinnov enabled was very similar to listening to a phantom center setup. For most of the demo I was seated 1 chair left-of-center from where the calibration mic was placed. I could not detect any distinct image in the center of the screen, everything that should have been "front and center" including dialog seemed to come from both the left & right speakers but nothing from the center. The longest demo with Trinnov enabled was the attack scene from Pearl Harbor and even the planes flying right down the center of the screen weren't positioned properly in the sound stage.

When I moved over one chair to the center sweet spot, most of the problems went away and it was more convincing. Unfortunately I only had to move ~18" to the right or left and the effect was detrimental instead of beneficial. The demonstrator from Sherwood suggested that Trinnov in "2D" mode instead of "3D" mode might have sounded better in that particular room arrangement.

Also something I learned about Trinnov (and suspected before I even went into the presentation), is that the correction software cannot compensate for poor speaker positioning if all speakers are placed very high or very low. So if you've got satellite speakers mounted close to the ceiling all the way around Trinnov is not going to be able to work any magic there in respect to virtual speaker positioning in the vertical plane. Of course the most common problem people have is the position of the center speaker, it's not too common to have the main left/right speakers in an odd spot.
 
That demo was "interesting". It presented a lot of marketing information, but the guys runing and setting up the demos didn't appear to be as well versed in the equipment as they might have been.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
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We will get the Sherwood reciever in for review to determine how well Trinnov works. I didn't get a clear indication in the demo at our SOTU event unfortunately. I believe there is enormous potential, especially since you can limit the correction for every channel from 300Hz and down which is something I wish I could do with Audyssey.
 
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ned

Full Audioholic
We will get the Sherwood reciever in for review to determine how well Trinnov works. I didn't get a clear indication in the demo at our SOTU event unfortunately. I believe there is enormous potential, especially since you can limit the correction for every channel from 300Hz and down which is something I wish I could do with Audyssey.
Thanks for the response Gene. Would you elaborate how is this different from audyssey?
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I read over on the AVSforum a post from Jeff that said the Sherwood demo receiver used at the SOTU had a problem. When they engaged Trinnov mode, the center channel stopped working completely. Which is why I felt like it entered a "phantom center" mode. With Trinnov off, the center channel worked correctly.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14963733&postcount=54
Yeah, I just read that before coming over here. Thanks, that does explain a lot, doesn't it? :rolleyes: lol
 
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