I have a chance to buy a refurb for under $600. Currently, I have a Pioneer 1014 as a pre/pro with an LPA-1 amplifier. I have Ascend Acoustic speakers in a 5.1 set up. I plan on keeping my Ascends for a long time. I really feel that the LPA-1 is of little use to me since I rarely listen to anything at reference levels. I am thinking of selling the LPA-1 and getting a Marantz because of their reputation. I have had the Pioneer for a long time and while I am sure it is still good, I want something else. I have also been thinking of getting a Denon with Audyssey or even an Onkyo 805 (a bit leery of this one). Then I think that Audyssey may be a bit over-rated and that the SR8500 may be the way to go. Opinions appreciated. Thanks