Aesthetically pleasing acoustic panels?

poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
I'm thinking about building some room treatments for my new living room, because it's small and first reflections will be pretty bad. I want to build some panels, but don't want to just leave them one solid colour.

Is there anything stopping me from using a white textile to wrap the panel, but having my artist friend do some cool art on them first with dyes? I'm assuming paint would be bad because it would clog up the holes in the textile and make it more reflective...

I think I could kill two birds with one stone here: have the place girl friendly, with art on the walls, and have it guy friendly, with a kick *** system! :cool:
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
Yes, a dye is perfect, and if your artist friend is versatile, I'm sure he can do dye painting or even air brush work with dyes. :)

I know you want to build some, but as for a perfect high class looking commercial treatment for reasonable bucks -- the Ready Acoustics Chamelon is excellent. It has a high quality build, and the frames are nice looking. The fabric on these is very high grade microfibre suede-like material like you find on some better quality furniture(not the cheap type of microfiber that has inconsistent pile). For the price, I can't recommend a better looking treatment. Get the fabric in white/creme and you can apply dies, no problem. Even if you don't want to buy the completed treatment, the frames can be purchased alone for the $30-$40 dollar range each, and the way they are made, it makes building a pro looking treatment very easy.

-Chris
 
poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
Thanks for the posts... my artist friend is pretty good so SHE ;) could probably do lots. She does mostly abstract kinda stuff, which would suit me just fine. It'd be a good excuse to have her over for a while! :D
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Please post back with pics, we always love to see new methods of treatments..
 
poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
Please post back with pics, we always love to see new methods of treatments..
Will do, I've not decided on home made or pre-fabbed panels yet, but I talked to my friend today and she's in, she's still a budding artist so quite happy to have some of her stuff on my living room walls... :D

I'll make another thread about best placement locations, I can see 3 bad spots in the room that'll need treatments, and two corners that may get floor to ceiling treatments if I can figure a way of making them look good. Who knows, maybe she can do some kinda flowery art on them too??? :p
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Hi. Aesthetically pleasing? FWIW, in a smaller room, bass trapping becomes the greater priority, rather than reflection points. I believe its the opposite in a larger room.

Stealth!

Planter

Table

Probably overpriced, and diffusers need more space to work, as I recently learned here, but they look interesting.

Overpriced?
 
poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
Hi. Aesthetically pleasing? FWIW, in a smaller room, bass trapping becomes the greater priority, rather than reflection points. I believe its the opposite in a larger room.

Stealth!

Planter

Table

Overpriced?
Out of those 3, I like the table the most, I may be able to fit the planters in somewhere too, but the table is almost a sure thing.

I may not have a big problem with first reflections, as my mains will be about 3.5' from the side walls, and about 3 feet from the floor (will use good area rug with underpad). The other thing is I'm most likely going to use horn loaded speakers, which tend to be more direct towards the listener, and taper off on the sides.

Thanks for the input! :D
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I see poutanen. Without knowing the real details, see if you can sit away from the rear wall. This is recommended regardless of the room size, but of course having ears next to walls happens more often in a smaller room due to space constraints. Not only do you get muddier bass, but this reflection arrives too quickly. If what you say is true about your horns, its possible that this reflection point might be the first to address. FWIW.

If you do table traps, or planters, etc, they will likely be most beneficial in the corners. Something to mull over if rearranging.
 
poutanen

poutanen

Full Audioholic
I see poutanen. Without knowing the real details, see if you can sit away from the rear wall. This is recommended regardless of the room size, but of course having ears next to walls happens more often in a smaller room due to space constraints. Not only do you get muddier bass, but this reflection arrives too quickly. If what you say is true about your horns, its possible that this reflection point might be the first to address. FWIW.

If you do table traps, or planters, etc, they will likely be most beneficial in the corners. Something to mull over if rearranging.
The new room is 18'6" x 12', with a doorway on the right side of the TV wall (so the TV wall is about 9'). My couch will be back about 12' from the front wall, or about 10' from the TV face and speakers.

The L/C/R speakers will be placed about 3' 6' and 9' from the left wall, which I realize isn't ideal given how far back I'll be sitting. But I'd rather have a slightly thin front stage than put the speakers all the way at the side walls (only other choice) and have bad first reflections.

The table sounds like a great idea, as I need a good location to place my turntable anyway. As far as placement vs. the subwoofer, is there any location that's best? Ie. if the sub is in the NE corner of the room, should the table be in the SW corner? What if the sub is in the centre of a wall, should the table be in the centre of the opposing wall?

Thanks for all the help everybody, I'm learning a lot here! :D:cool::D

Aaron
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
Regarding stage-width, etc, I think its just best to experiment. Whether that means pulling the speakers forward, closer to you, etc, to get that wider angle. I'd place for optimum imaging and stage. FWIW, sometimes adding treatments allows you to find that optimal position, because sometimes the destructive reflections at those spots would have you decide against it.

You can even try extremes when experimenting as points of reference. One extreme being with no regard for performance, but only for looks/convenience, and the other extreme being performance only, door and space be damned. When you get this reference, you might more easily find the perfect compromise. I don't always use extremes as points of references, but sometimes I do for more difficult things. Like phase for a sub, or video calibration as well.

Re sub vs treatment, boundary meetings are usually good spots to treat, no matter where your sub is located. If there was a general opinion, its that typically the front of the room gets the most benefit, if there was a general opinion to begin with.

Even if and when you get treatments, Id also experiement with placements of those. Get some stool or box or anything to help prop them if you need.

Remember every room is different, and everybody is different. BTW, I think 35% room length for viewer positioning is a very good starting point (which I believe is what you have described). Could in fact end up being the ideal.

Remember to enjoy the process. You are already way ahead in the game compared to most folks just by even considering acoustics.

-jostenmeat
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Auralex looks like they offer something better than plain:

http://www.auralex.com/sonicprint/

FWIW.

Those are Awesome... I was so happy when I saw they started doing them...

Now I have the Ability to add a bunch of art work into a few of my rooms in a dual purpose role again... Sweet...
Although I am very well aware that Auralex is not cheap... by any stretch of the means...
 
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nineballg

Audiophyte
hey guys as far as having nice looking acoustic panels its easy.
i've built many panels and all you need to do is find some nice looking fabric that you like and use it. your panels dont have to be solid colours.
i've seen many different fabrics with patterns and pictures on them.
heck you could use thin sheets or blankets if you like the looks of it, but remember that you should still be able to blow through the fabric a little bit.
also, make sure its not too hard of a material cause then you'll get reflections.
 
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