Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Joe Biden. The new Dan Quayle?
They both shouldn't open their mouths.:eek:

Just when I thought Obama's platform of "Change" had nothing in common with Joe Biden,(another lawyer turned politician) from the 'Good Old Boy network' of Washington. Seems like closet racism is their link.

Anyone care to remember the Biden quote (Feb, 2007) that can be found on CNN.com? (it's been conveniently removed from You Tube)

Joe Biden: "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," Biden said. "I mean, that's a storybook, man."


Or Perhaps This Little Ditty? http:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU



Or Maybe This One:

In what the Washington Post is describing as a “stumble,” Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said in an interview with the paper Wednesday that Washington’s high minority population is one of the reasons for the city’s education problems.

Explaining why schools in Iowa are performing better than those in Washington, D.C., Biden told the Post, “There’s less than one percent of the population of Iowa that is African American. There is probably less than four of five percent that are minorities. What is in Washington? So look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you’re dealing with.”

“When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there’s no books, where the mother from the time they’re born doesn’t talk to them — as opposed to the mother in Iowa who’s sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts out with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before the kid steps foot in the classroom,” the Delaware Democrat added.

The paper reports Biden’s campaign quickly sought to clarify the remarks, saying in a statement that the senator was not making a “race-based distinction.”


Um, right. Black people just aren’t very good parents unlike the nice white folks in Iowa. If only Delaware could get rid of all the black people, why — education scores would pop right up, is that it? Is Biden crazy?:eek:

It’s the diminishing, patronizing, great-white-burden, good-for-you! style of racism that is so repugnant to me and should be to the Osama's and their supporters. But for me, it’s the pandering, opportunistic, cynical flavor of Biden’s racism that makes it extra-special.
 
E

EJ1

Audioholic Chief
If only Delaware could get rid of all the black people, why — education scores would pop right up, is that it? Is Biden crazy?:eek:
You don't think there is a correlation between minority population and low education scores? There's a difference between being a racist (loosely defined) and looking at statistics.

But I agree that that's not something you say when you're a high political figure.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
You don't think there is a correlation between minority population and low education scores? There's a difference between being a racist (loosely defined) and looking at statistics.
I listed two quotes, and one You Tube link.
There point's are not education scores.
They speak to Joe Biden's Closet Racism.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
The one thing I always liked about Biden is that he speaks his mind, though often times to his detriment. The one thing I respect very much about him is that I know who he is. He's not this polished, well-handled, politican. He's says it like it is, the way it is as it appears to him and I believe he is genuine. Though I disagree with almost all of his politics, I can respect and admire someone who puts it out there like that.

Regarding his comments on education, the sad fact is, some of what he's saying is right. I sit on an oversight board for our county and there is no doubt, absolutely no denying, that the predominantly white schools are achieiving better grades and success. It's not just solely a matter of economics because even some of the miniority classes of students attending the predominantly white schools also score lower.

It's not a question of capability or that white kids are just smarter or genetically superiior or anything stupid like that. That's just dumb and stats prove that to be false anyway. It really stems from the home environment. Its the same reason that Asians are uniformly higher achievers than white students. Typically, or at least in the recent past, their home life has a far sticter regimen in the home with far lesser instances of divorce or out of wedlock children then whites.. so the trend and the results continue in the same pattern.

Black children and Hispanic children who come from solid, well functioning homes do just as well as their white counterparts. My daughter who is in the International Bachleorate program has several black friends in her program and they are all succeeding just fine in arguably the most difficult educational program a high school student can be a part of. Two of them are our friends in our neighborhood and I know that they spend a lot of time each day making sure homework and study time is done. TV and computer is limited and almost every other day they have what's callled "family hour" where the TV, the blackberry's and the phones are turned off and they sit together and talk about whatever they feel like... but they do it together. That's why their children are succeeding.

Children just can't do it alone. Whether they are white or black doesn't matter. They have to have the support outside the school to succeed. The cold hard stats, not the opinions or idle observations bear these truths out.

So many of our society's ills, the things that I'm ashamed of because they even exist, are the result of larger, broader based cultural or societal issues that are too often glossed over because of the uncomfortable nature of the conversation that needs to take place. I like to see strong individuals like Bill Cosby and others who speak plainly about some of the issues that minorities need to address. I also think that liberal politicians like to create a culture of victims and that alone becomes a very difficult cycle to break. I believe, in general, in mass, that people will rise to a challenge. And I mean all people... black, white, hispanic, whomever.

I don't think Biden is racist, not for one minute. I think he often speaks from the heart as opposed to his head. In a lot of ways, it's what's made me like him over the years. Again, I disagree with him politically.. but i do respect the man.
 
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Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Well done itschris!
I agree with you, and also what Biden said about education.

Though the simple fact remains.
Very few people could get away with such statements; that normally our media would deem Racist.
There is a double standard in this country. If a Republican, or CEO made any of those three statements that Biden made.
They would be vilified and asked to resign.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
Well done itschris!
I agree with you, and also what Biden said about education.

Though the simple fact remains.
Very few people could get away with such statements; that normally our media would deem Racist.
There is a double standard in this country. If a Republican, or CEO made any of those three statements that Biden made.
They would be vilified and asked to resign.
There's absolutely no doubt about that. It's almost comical the way the media just gives a free pass to such things. You only have to look at how the politicians and news outlets nearly destroyed Trent Lott for far far far less, yet they revere Byrd, a former klansman. It's riduculous.

It's so tranparent, yet so many, especially the minorities themselves just don't see who really is hurting them the most. Creating a society of victims who are fed scraps to keep them appeased is just shameful and immoral.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
I honestly don't see why anyone wants to be a politician. You subject yourself to an insane amount of scrutiny and NO ONE is squeaky clean.

But in this age of instant information retrieval, what the hell is Biden or anyone else thinking to make these kinds of comments when there's a camera in your face?!?!?
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I honestly don't see why anyone wants to be a politician. You subject yourself to an insane amount of scrutiny and NO ONE is squeaky clean.

But in this age of instant information retrieval, what the hell is Biden or anyone else thinking to make these kinds of comments when there's a camera in your face?!?!?

It's hasn't been widely covered at all. The major networks have just let this go by. At the same time, I like it when people are just candid or lack the commense to censor themselves (however you want to view it).

Like I said, I'd rather know where the person's coming from rather than have this artificial image. You can look at what he says as stupid, or you can think about it and see some truth to it. And whether or not that truth is good, bad, right, or wrong... it deserves some critical thought and attention.

I attend many of the county school board meetings along with state level and it saddens me that no one will ever broach the race subject. You simply cannot point out the disparity between the success rates of predominantly white and black schools without totally offending someone and being labeled a racist. Because of that, it remains the 800 pound gorilla in the room that no one talks about and nothing changes. I think every child deserves the same opportunity to succeed and grow. You don't have to rich or attend the right school, you just need to have the support structure around you to create an environment of acheivement. I don't know how to make that happen. We need major shits in society and that won't come quickly... in fact I don't think many even see it as something that even needs to happen.

The truth is, you put a rich white child in a bad environment where there's little support, he drops. At the same time, when we had the busing here, the minority kids who came to the north county area schools (which were predominantly white) did not fair much better than in their own schools. To me, when I look at those number and cunch it all out (it's what I do for a living) I see that it's something other than the economics and the school that makes the difference. It's the home and how children are raised and the environment that surrounds them.

If Biden opens his big mouth and says things like that, it should start dialogue. It won't though because the media is very much protecting the dem ticket as best they can. It's been acknolwledged even by the left so it's really not up for debate anymore.

McCain could actually take advantage and bring the issue forward. But his campaign is too caught up in childish insults and falling for the silly back and forth rhetoric and 30 second soundbite.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
I honestly don't see why anyone wants to be a politician. You subject yourself to an insane amount of scrutiny and NO ONE is squeaky clean.
You're absolutely correct on this. I think it started when Clinton began his run. Suddenly, it became more important to be a celebrity than a politician (which in my mind was always a nobel endeavor).

It used to be more important to do what's right as opposed to let the country suffer just to prove the other side wrong.

It really has become the politics of personal destruction.
 

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