narrowed my selection but stuck on a final im stuck.

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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
The extra HDMI of the 863 is not worth the additional cost over the 663. With the money you save on the 663 you can get an external 2 ch amp for the main speakers. By the way if your have a 1080 LCD TV you are going to be watching 1080p anyway even if your HD DVD player outputs 1080i.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
is that the same audyessy setup as on the denon.?
I don't think it is the same, but it is very similar. Yamaha, Harman Kardon, Pioneer, etc. all have their own similar automated setup for speaker levels and room EQ (tones).

In my experience, the speaker level setup is okay, but I would override the room EQ.

Manual setup with a $50-$60 SPL meter (like the Galaxy digital SPL 0.5dB increments) is the best way to setup.
 
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s52e368

Full Audioholic
well guys i did it. i appreciate all your efforts. i was really just over analyzing a handful of extremely similar AVR's (as another person said).
i ended up going with the one i was originally wanting the RX-V863.

thanks again and thanks to those for the pricing leads. i was able to score it for under 700 shipped with 3yr service plan.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
well guys i did it. i appreciate all your efforts. i was really just over analyzing a handful of extremely similar AVR's (as another person said).
i ended up going with the one i was originally wanting the RX-V863.

thanks again and thanks to those for the pricing leads. i was able to score it for under 700 shipped with 3yr service plan.
Well, congrats!

Enjoy the new Yammy!:D
 
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jazee

Audiophyte
I am trying to make a similar decision. Have a Yamaha 1400 right now with Oppo 970, WII, and Comcast DVR/Cable. Since it only has 2 components the WII components go to the TV. Got a new Panny 58" 800U Plasma on the way. Thinking maybe it is time to cleanup my A/V setup and get and HDMI received. Would be nice to just run one cable from receiver to TV and one cable from Comcast box and Oppo to receiver.

I was going to order a Yamaha 663, great value, but then decided I would probably later regret only having 2 HDMI inputs and don't want the clutter of an HDMI switch for when I upgrade to a different video game system.

The 863 is great but I agree with most that it is not strong as far as bang for the buck. I can get last years Yamaha 1800 for $700, that's a bit more than I want to pay. Then I started reading in depth about the Denon 1909. Everyone really seems to love the Audessey (sp?) features both EQ and volume leveling. In fact a guy that was troubleshooting a problem with his DVD player who had an 1800 when out and bought a 1909 Denon to rule out the receiver (it wasn't the receiver) but ended up keeping the 1909 and selling the 1800 because he liked the 1909 so much!

So keep the 1400 and wait for prices to come down on the 1909? Or spring for it now and stretch a little beyond my budget seems to be my dilemma. But if I fork this kind of money out and have HDMI handshake issues and have to use component, I'll be SO pissed that I just didn't keep my 1400 and just swap the TV out and be done with it.
 
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s52e368

Full Audioholic
I am trying to make a similar decision. Have a Yamaha 1400 right now with Oppo 970, WII, and Comcast DVR/Cable. Since it only has 2 components the WII components go to the TV. Got a new Panny 58" 800U Plasma on the way. Thinking maybe it is time to cleanup my A/V setup and get and HDMI received. Would be nice to just run one cable from receiver to TV and one cable from Comcast box and Oppo to receiver.

I was going to order a Yamaha 663, great value, but then decided I would probably later regret only having 2 HDMI inputs and don't want the clutter of an HDMI switch for when I upgrade to a different video game system.

The 863 is great but I agree with most that it is not strong as far as bang for the buck. I can get last years Yamaha 1800 for $700, that's a bit more than I want to pay. Then I started reading in depth about the Denon 1909. Everyone really seems to love the Audessey (sp?) features both EQ and volume leveling. In fact a guy that was troubleshooting a problem with his DVD player who had an 1800 when out and bought a 1909 Denon to rule out the receiver (it wasn't the receiver) but ended up keeping the 1909 and selling the 1800 because he liked the 1909 so much!

So keep the 1400 and wait for prices to come down on the 1909? Or spring for it now and stretch a little beyond my budget seems to be my dilemma. But if I fork this kind of money out and have HDMI handshake issues and have to use component, I'll be SO pissed that I just didn't keep my 1400 and just swap the TV out and be done with it.
1909 was on my list but opted for the 863 at under 700 shipped with 3 more service years.
 
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