Challenging Basement for Home Theater

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Ben_in_COSpring

Junior Audioholic
I would like to move my HT set-up to my basement (where late-night movies won't wake up the kids), but I think I have a pretty challenging basement to with respect to getting a decent acoustics. I've modeled my house in Google SketchUp, and have attached images below. Any of the furniture can be moved to accommodate the HT, including the bookshelves. I plan to use a projector with roughly a 100" screen, and a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker set-up.

As I see it, the biggest obstacle is the furnace air return, which runs along my east wall. I am assuming that this can't be moved or reduced in size. My ceiling is pretty low, about 7', and about 6' under the air return. Another challenge is the "steps" in my wall along the north and west walls, which I will probably just fill the gaps in to create a full wall.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
 

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Djizasse

Djizasse

Senior Audioholic
The stepped wall is the one to have the screen. I don't know how long is your basement, depending on it, you will be seated next to the rear wall or more upfront (avoiding the center of the room).
The choice between 5.1 or 7.1 will depend on the room length and how many seat rows you're going to use.

Your basement will be your HT room, there's no problem in setting acoustic panels to correct any problem (no WAF). If you have the time, disposition and will to do it, you can analyze the room to check for room modes and apply the correct acoustic panels (you can go DIY to save money).

As for speaker choices, do you have them (if so, what do you have?) or are you going to buy them? What is your budget?

Djizasse
ps1 - what renderer this you use with sketchup? That does not look like the built in.
ps2 - I'm still very new to this, wait for more suggestions from more knowledgeable posters.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
The stepped wall is the one to have the screen.
I agree.

There seems to be plenty of room for 7.1. Multiple subs, closing the opening and adding doors would really make me want to move in. :D Nice work with sketch up BTW. I gotta look into that. :)
 
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Ben_in_COSpring

Junior Audioholic
I use Podium as the renderer, although Kerkythea produces just as good of images, and it's free too. It's not as tightly integrated w/ SU, so it's a little harder to use, but not too much so.

I forgot to mention a really critical point, which is that the HT area is only going to consume about 1/2 - 2/3 of the room, with exercise equipment consuming the rest. Ideally, I would prefer to not put up a wall, although am not totally ruling it out.

Thanks for your input.
 

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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I would like to move my HT set-up to my basement (where late-night movies won't wake up the kids), but I think I have a pretty challenging basement to with respect to getting a decent acoustics. I've modeled my house in Google SketchUp, and have attached images below. Any of the furniture can be moved to accommodate the HT, including the bookshelves. I plan to use a projector with roughly a 100" screen, and a 5.1 or 7.1 speaker set-up.

As I see it, the biggest obstacle is the furnace air return, which runs along my east wall. I am assuming that this can't be moved or reduced in size. My ceiling is pretty low, about 7', and about 6' under the air return. Another challenge is the "steps" in my wall along the north and west walls, which I will probably just fill the gaps in to create a full wall.

Any thoughts or suggestions?
No comment on the air return.

Are you going to paint it all black? :)

Just remember light control.

And if between 1/2 and 1/3... try to sit about 38% from either the front or back. As a general starting point for best acoustics. Budget for treatments.

I say no additional wall, if looking for performance first. Less bass issues as well. But won't look as sexy as a truly dedicated HT when the exercise stuff is in plain view. OTOH, when the lights are off, it doesn't matter anymore, does it now? :)

What's your budget? If you are indeed going for a more modest screen size like 100", then I would start thinking about AT screens. Weaves, not the perforated type. It still costs $$$$, but at least not $$$$$$$$$$$ with an even larger size.

After all, you are an audioholic. :D

I deal with reflections from my center sitting on the floor. Its on top of a rug, which is on top of carpet, angled up, sitting between two large treatments. I bumped up the x-over to 100hz to help ameliorate the situation.

The system totally rocks, I love it... but having three upright identical speakers on the same plane would be such the improvement. A really big one. Very big.
 
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Ben_in_COSpring

Junior Audioholic
No comment on the air return.

Are you going to paint it all black? :)

...

What's your budget?

I had not even thought about paint. I definitely intend to replace that fugly carpet though.

Budget for remodeling is $1K-$2K. I can hopefully do a lot of the work myself.
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
Hey Ben, another CSer here (Security area). Looks like you're on the right track. I wish now that I had oriented my room differently when I had my house built 6 years ago to accommodate a projection system, but at the time it didn't seem feasible. I'm jealous, but very happy with my system's performance.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Hey Ben, another CSer here (Security area). Looks like you're on the right track. I wish now that I had oriented my room differently when I had my house built 6 years ago to accommodate a projection system, but at the time it didn't seem feasible. I'm jealous, but very happy with my system's performance.
Is that a 20/20 hindsight? :D

Yes, wish we could have foreseen to future a bit more, or thought that we would be interested in that aspect of a coming advancement. :D
Next reincarnation;):D
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
I wish now that I had oriented my room differently when I had my house built 6 years ago to accommodate a projection system, but at the time it didn't seem feasible. I'm jealous, but very happy with my system's performance.
Is that a 20/20 hindsight? :D

Yes, wish we could have foreseen to future a bit more, or thought that we would be interested in that aspect of a coming advancement. :D
Next reincarnation;):D
Hm. I'm curious why its not possible? People get some amazing systems in modest spaces. Seriously. One of the most amazing looking systems I've seen was a converted garage!. Here it is:

 
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jamie2112

Banned
That is the sickest build job for a garage that I have ever seen....Kudos to the owner......:eek:
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
That is the sickest build job for a garage that I have ever seen....Kudos to the owner......:eek:
Yeah, seriously. :D You'll note bpape posting on the first page of that thread, that dude is everywhere!

Here is another HT to give some people yet another ray of hope. 12x13 bedroom. $2260 total!!!!!! :eek: Includes PJ, carpet, furniture, HD-DVD player, wiring, screen, everything. :eek:

Small Budget, Smaller Room HT Conversion.

I am continually amazed at what people can pull off, both here, and elsewhere. :D

 
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