speaker damage: how bad is it?

[urlwolf]

I've been looking for good deals for a while and listening to speakers I have available locally (Berlin).

My budget is 300-700.

I have looked at (and heard):
Dali Concept 6 (550 eur)
Dali suite 2.8 (550 used)
MB-Quart, QLS 1030 (similar)

I liked the Magnat Quantum 705. These are a bit more expensive (1400 pair) but I found a place that has one last show room pair for a price in line with the others.

It has a problem though: one of the speakers shows a 'bump' in the dustcover. See attachment.

I have no idea how bad this is. It might be imperceptible, it might be a big 'no-no'. What do you think?

When I asked about it, they tried to fix it with a hoover just in front of me. Of course, seeing people approaching a delicate speaker with a hoover, and trying to suck the bump back into shape made me shiver. Who knows what these barbarians have done to the speakers when no clients are looking

In any case, is this a good choice, given the available speakers? How important is it to have a warranty (i.e., could I ask Magnat to fix this under warranty)?

Thanks

 

[Joe Schmoe]

The dust cover is just that: a dust cover. It has no impact on the sound.
I would never consider buying anything used without the warranty (or at least a 30-day return policy.)

 

[Seth=L]

Joe is correct, it won't affect the sound.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I have seen people pull out dents with tape. If it is a good deal, I wouldnt let it slow me down.

When I got my 100's home last month the dust cap on the tweeter was dinted. I called the dealer and told him and said it was no big deal but he insisted that I bring it in for a trade. We both agreed that it wouldnt affect sound but I paid for perfect speakers and that's what I needed to walk out with.

 

[Warpdrv]

Try using a toilet paper or paper towel roll and see if you can suck the dent out with your mouth... I have seen this done and it worked like a charm. Its worth a try..

 

[GlocksRock]

just push it the rest of the way in!

 

[mtrycrafts]

Try using a toilet paper or paper towel roll and see if you can suck the dent out with your mouth... I have seen this done and it worked like a charm. Its worth a try..

Or, to add to warp, try some masking tape and pull it out of that vacuum suction doesn't work, or try a better vacuum system

 

[j_garcia]

The shape of the dust cap CAN affect the sound, but you would have to push it in all the way as mentioned for it to have any real effect. Masking tape can get that little dent out almost for certain. I wouldn't use a vacuum on an aluminum driver as it may cause more damage than what you are fixing. That little dent probably wouldn't cause any perceptible or measurable difference in sound though.

 

[Warpdrv]

Agreed.... I wouldn't use any type of vacuum on that, would certainly create more damage... Gentle suction from the paper towel tube will likely fix your issue, or possibly the masking tape, but I don't lend much faith in the glue in masking tape...


Please do post your results..... Good Luck my friend...

 

[urlwolf]

Agreed.... I wouldn't use any type of vacuum on that, would certainly create more damage... Gentle suction from the paper towel tube will likely fix your issue, or possibly the masking tape, but I don't lend much faith in the glue in masking tape...


Please do post your results..... Good Luck my friend...

Well, the guys in the shop did the vacuum trick, in front of me, and it didn't work. These speakers have some kind of aluminum covers, so they are probably harder to press/unpress .

So after seeing them going with a vacuum cleaner full force, should I forget about this pair? Have they destroyed the speakers for good? This is what you get when you deal with supermarket people selling speakers

 

[Warpdrv]

Unless you love the heck out of them, and you can swing an incredible deal, I would walk away, there are more fish in the sea.

 

[urlwolf]

Unless you love the heck out of them, and you can swing an incredible deal, I would walk away, there are more fish in the sea.

Well, it's basically half price. But you are right, there are lots of other speakers in town.

 

[jsholland70]

You can sometimes poke a pin through the front of the dome and very gently use that to pull it out correctly. I would be careful however. Depending upon the dome material this may not be feasible.

 

[jamie2112]

You can sometimes poke a pin through the front of the dome and very gently use that to pull it out correctly. I would be careful however. Depending upon the dome material this may not be feasible.

WHAT???? that is the absolute worst thing you can do. Would you do that to your 15000 B&W's I think not. Very bad advice.

 

[Haoleb]

WHAT???? that is the absolute worst thing you can do. Would you do that to your 15000 B&W's I think not. Very bad advice.

Not really, Its another well known technique you can use when the tape or vacuume doesnt work. Of course you need to be alot more careful doing it but you basically just poke a small hole in, then get a very small paperclip or peice of wire, bend it into an L type shape then you can sort of pull out the dent(s)

 

[jsholland70]

If I was careful it would actually have less effect on the B&Ws due to the woven Kevlar cone instead of most materials that are a solid mass.

 

[jsholland70]

Of course if I tried this on the diamond tweeter that would just be stupid

 

[Votrax]

just push it the rest of the way in!

LOL!

How about trying a Dyson vacuum cleaner!

 

[MidnightSensi]

Try using a toilet paper or paper towel roll and see if you can suck the dent out with your mouth... I have seen this done and it worked like a charm. Its worth a try..

just push it the rest of the way in!

Or, to add to warp, try some masking tape and pull it out of that vacuum suction doesn't work, or try a better vacuum system

You can sometimes poke a pin through the front of the dome and very gently use that to pull it out correctly. I would be careful however. Depending upon the dome material this may not be feasible.

That just sounds painful.

Not really, Its another well known technique you can use when the tape or vacuume doesnt work. Of course you need to be alot more careful doing it but you basically just poke a small hole in, then get a very small paperclip or peice of wire, bend it into an L type shape then you can sort of pull out the dent(s)

oh no.

just push it the rest of the way in!

LOL!

How about trying a Dyson vacuum cleaner!