Ok all you Yamahaulers

ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
As I pour drink number two, I have a question.

Since I upgraded to the 100's I have really started to enjoy playing all my music in "straight" mode.

Yes, yes, we all know what happens when I play in Pure Direct along with drinks but back to the question.

What is occuring in "straight" mode? All the manual says is "enjoying unprocessed input sources- when this unit is in straight mode, 2 channel stereo sources are output from only left and right speakers".

I know this is not completely true as my sub works in this mode unlike when I use Pure Direct.

So- is my crossover in action here or not?

Why has this become my favorite mode?

What is going on here?
 
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ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Here is a picture of my Martini on my 100. This is serious so someone better help my quickly.

I know, I have issues....but you guys like pictures anyway....

 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Now that I've had a couple of beers myself, I can answer that.

Well, it's pretty obvious, Greg.

"Straight" mode means that it's not gay.:)

No funny business here.

Serious stuff here.:D

No, really, seriously though, it sounds like "Stereo" or "Direct" mode in which Tones and EQs are bypassed, but LFE/Subwoofer crossover is still active.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Who cares? If it is your favorite mode, don't question it, just go with it. :D
 
Haoleb

Haoleb

Audioholic Field Marshall
Who cares? If it is your favorite mode, don't question it, just go with it. :D
Its not that simple. I think he is starting to see what us 2 channel audiofools have known for quite a while now. Recievers suck :D

First its "buywire" cables, Next you'll be looking at monoblock amps and curious about... Tubes.. Gasp!
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
We really have to plan a "get together" one of these days.
Now that I've had a couple of beers myself, I can answer that.

Well, it's pretty obvious, Greg.

"Straight" mode means that it's not gay.:)

No funny business here.

Serious stuff here.:D

No, really, seriously though, it sounds like "Stereo" or "Direct" mode in which Tones and EQs are bypassed, but LFE/Subwoofer crossover is still active.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I have had my fair share of 2 channel set-ups. It's this HT stuff that is new to me.

BTW, I just ordered 7 of those new EMO mono's.
Its not that simple. I think he is starting to see what us 2 channel audiofools have known for quite a while now. Recievers suck :D

First its "buywire" cables, Next you'll be looking at monoblock amps and curious about... Tubes.. Gasp!
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
Funny story related to drinking:

Last weekend we were at happy hour and the guy next to me kept talking to me, he was interesting and you could just tell he had money. His wife and mine hit it off and we ended up partying with them for a good amount of time. We started talking about HT stuff and he asked if I could check out his stereo as only one speaker worked. I went over to his house, where it bacame obvious that he has an ungodly amount of money, and evaluated his set-up. After I connected the speaker wire that wasn't hooked up on his right speaker, everything worked just fine. He praised me on and on and the offered any of his services to me for free. Turns out he remods homes with a speciality of building HT rooms. He said he doesnt have a clue about the equipement but he builds awesome rooms. I looked at some of the work he has done and it is really nice. As a tester, he is redoing my bar area with granite counter tops for free (he says it's payment for me fixing his stereo) This could get interesting!
Now that I've had a couple of beers myself, I can answer that.

Well, it's pretty obvious, Greg.

"Straight" mode means that it's not gay.:)

No funny business here.

Serious stuff here.:D

No, really, seriously though, it sounds like "Stereo" or "Direct" mode in which Tones and EQs are bypassed, but LFE/Subwoofer crossover is still active.
 
Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
Pure%20Direct.jpg

Pretty good description here.

No Martinis and 100s for me.
Just beer and Polk monitors. :(
 
Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
Your sub is on in straight mode? I didn't think that was the case. Can't get the HT right now to check my 1800. Some home decorating show is on.:rolleyes: I listen in Pure Direct or 2 ch (which has the cross over active) straight is a bit of an unknown for me. I would think the cross over would be active if the sub is getting a signal.
 
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gus6464

Audioholic Samurai
With Yamaha receivers they do the following:

Straight mode: signal is unprocessed from source but crossover is active thus you have sub working. Also video through the HDMI works as well.

Pure Direct: Signal is unprocessed, HDMI video is turned off, all amplification except for the fronts is turned off.

So basically you have two options:

If you are using an SACD player through HDMI, in straight mode you can do multichannel SACD. Considering the DAC on your receiver is DSD discrete if you have a compatible player this is the way to go.

If you are doing 2ch SACD you can do pure direct except you can only get 2ch.

Straight is the same as Pure Direct except you can do 5.1, and video will work through the HDMI. Now there is also Stereo mode which will work the same as straight mode in 2ch except you can use EQ.

Straight mode - up to 7.1, crossover active, no EQ, full HDMI function
Pure Direct - 2ch, crossover inactive, only FL/FR amps on, no EQ, HDMI off
Stereo - 2.1, only FL/FR amps on, crossover active, EQ, full HDMI function
 
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gus6464

Audioholic Samurai
Your sub is on in straight mode? I didn't think that was the case. Can't get the HT right now to check my 1800. Some home decorating show is on.:rolleyes: I listen in Pure Direct or 2 ch (which has the cross over active) straight is a bit of an unknown for me. I would think the cross over would be active if the sub is getting a signal.
Straight mode is all amps on, no EQ, crossover active.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
As a tester, he is redoing my bar area with granite counter tops for free (he says it's payment for me fixing his stereo) This could get interesting!
Alright, I'm naturally paranoid and tend not to trust anything that is too good to be true. So, take the following in the that light. My advice - just be careful with this guy if you don't already know him. Seems odd that he couldn't figure out that the speaker wire wasn't connected, given that the other one was. He then offers to give you free granite countertops (installed, even). Seems like he might need a key to your house for that. If I wasn't wary already, I'd be at that point.

That said - if it's on the up-and-up, congrats! That would be quite a score.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
Last weekend we were at happy hour and the guy next to me kept talking to me, he was interesting and you could just tell he had money. ...As a tester, he is redoing my bar area with granite counter tops for free (he says it's payment for me fixing his stereo) This could get interesting!
agreed with Adam.

are you sure he doesn't "like" :p you in a way horror movies / bad dreams go? :D
 
Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
Alright, I'm naturally paranoid and tend not to trust anything that is too good to be true. So, take the following in the that light. My advice - just be careful with this guy if you don't already know him. Seems odd that he couldn't figure out that the speaker wire wasn't connected, given that the other one was. He then offers to give you free granite countertops (installed, even). Seems like he might need a key to your house for that. If I wasn't wary already, I'd be at that point.

That said - if it's on the up-and-up, congrats! That would be quite a score.

Or maybe he just like you playing in STRAIGHT mode Greg.
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
As I pour drink number two, I have a question.

Since I upgraded to the 100's I have really started to enjoy playing all my music in "straight" mode.

Yes, yes, we all know what happens when I play in Pure Direct along with drinks but back to the question.

What is occuring in "straight" mode? All the manual says is "enjoying unprocessed input sources- when this unit is in straight mode, 2 channel stereo sources are output from only left and right speakers".

I know this is not completely true as my sub works in this mode unlike when I use Pure Direct.

So- is my crossover in action here or not?

Why has this become my favorite mode?

What is going on here?
I don't think you are too far into your cups here Greg, but some will think you are.

You have found a truth. The whole concept behind the two programs mentioned here, Crapo and Odity are bogus. They are quality spoilers pure and simple, no if and buts. Now that should create a fire.

However I was taught you never EQ a room to flat. Even further I was taught it is audio vandalism. Most of the worst loudspeaker faults can not be equalized away, and in fact often exacerbated with EQ.

The reason is simple our hearing is conditioned to hear the room. If you had live instrumentalists in your room, unless the room was very odd, then it would sound good. your speakers should too.

If a set of speakers sound bad, in a room, that is not highly unusual they are bad speakers. I have confirmed again and again, that good speakers are not fussy about the room they are in. My rooms have usual standard treatments without hanging anything exotic, or placing unusual objects. I just use dimensions, carpet, windows pictures and furnishings. Unless your room is a real dog, that is all you need.

I have received many comments that my space needs treatments. I can assure you it does not, it is a wonderful sounding stace. Any EQ or funny hangings or objects would ruin it.
 

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