Vinyl News

[3db]

The Good:

http://www.northplattebulletin.com/index.asp?show=news&action=readStory&storyID=14941&pageID=3

http://www.explorernews.com/articles/2008/08/13/el_sol/doc48a31801ead35560490191.txt

http://www.buffalonews.com/entertainment/story/416665.html

http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/Story/08-15-turntables

 

[Joe Schmoe]

The Good:

http://www.northplattebulletin.com/index.asp?show=news&action=readStory&storyID=14941&pageID=3

http://www.explorernews.com/articles/2008/08/13/el_sol/doc48a31801ead35560490191.txt

http://www.buffalonews.com/entertainment/story/416665.html

http://www.observer-reporter.com/OR/Story/08-15-turntables

And the bad?

 

[3db]

And the bad?

The bad I thought was record stroes closing but it turned out to be shops selling CDs. No bad news to report this time.

 

[MinusTheBear]

I enjoy reading these vinyl articles but I do not like when they make claims records sound better than C.D's, it is just not the case. People can have preferences but when making claims the facts state otherwise. They lump all c.d's into being compressed (no dynamic range) and inferior to vinyl. They fail to recognize that there also poorly recorded records as well. It is still nice to hear records still have a cult following. I think a crucial part of this industry and turning point is what will happen when all the baby boomers are gone. Who will buy records then?

 

[Joe Schmoe]

I enjoy reading these vinyl articles but I do not like when they make claims records sound better than C.D's, it is just not the case. People can have preferences but when making claims the facts state otherwise. They lump all c.d's into being compressed (no dynamic range) and inferior to vinyl. They fail to recognize that there also poorly recorded records as well. It is still nice to hear records still have a cult following. I think a crucial part of this industry and turning point is what will happen when all the baby boomers are gone. Who will buy records then?

Well put, and correct on all points.

 

[3db]

I enjoy reading these vinyl articles but I do not like when they make claims records sound better than C.D's, it is just not the case. People can have preferences but when making claims the facts state otherwise. They lump all c.d's into being compressed (no dynamic range) and inferior to vinyl. They fail to recognize that there also poorly recorded records as well. It is still nice to hear records still have a cult following. I think a crucial part of this industry and turning point is what will happen when all the baby boomers are gone. Who will buy records then?

I agree with you too Minus and thats not the point of these posts.

Conversely, I also think that not all CDs sound better than vinyl. For me, it depends on the recording engineer. I've heard both formats slay the other but it all depends on the recording.

As far as who will be purchasing once the Baby boomers are gone, the articles repeatedly reported that the Gen X's are lining up to purchase records. The used vinyl shops that I go into have as many people in the 20 to 30 year old age group as there are my age group.

 

[MinusTheBear]

As far as who will be purchasing once the Baby boomers are gone, the articles repeatedly reported that the Gen X's are lining up to purchase records. The used vinyl shops that I go into have as many people in the 20 to 30 year old age group as there are my age group.

Hopefully this is the case, and will continue to support them.

 

[bandphan]

I still think the direct to disc recordings that were done in the 70s and early 80s by sheffield lab ( http://www.townhallrecords.com/cgi-bin/townhall.pl?category=14 ) Are some of the finest works ive heard, including David Chesky works.

 

[3db]

I want to get my hands on a few of them. Good lucking finding them in a used vinyl shop. *L*

 

[vinylhater]

Vinyl Sucks?

After lurking in the digital audio realm; I would like to be the first "audiophile" to utterly destroy and disregard any compliments and positive thoughts about vinyl records. C.D's are the future of Hi-Fi listening and always will be. Vinyl is dead and it will never come back, the only medium currently surpassing C.D fidelity is live music. :] Thanks for your time



-God <3

 

[Adam]

C.D's are the future of Hi-Fi listening and always will be.

Hee, hee. Yeah, right. People probably would have said the same thing about records 30 years ago. CDs are the simply the present...well, part of it. IMO, they are already on the way out.

Welcome to the forum, btw. Although I don't expect to see much of you around, as your screen name seems pretty much tailored for a limited numbers of posts on this thread. I'll be happy if you prove me wrong. It's always good to have new people join in.

 

[The Dukester]

After lurking in the digital audio realm; I would like to be the first "audiophile" to utterly destroy and disregard any compliments and positive thoughts about vinyl records. C.D's are the future of Hi-Fi listening and always will be. Vinyl is dead and it will never come back, the only medium currently surpassing C.D fidelity is live music. :] Thanks for your time



-God <3

Nice first post, Troll. CD and LP sales disprove your opinion. The only part of your post I agree with is concerning live music. I do hope that physical media will survive the download onslaught, whether it be in vinyl or CD form.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

CDs are the simply the present...well, part of it. IMO, they are already on the way out.

If CDs do get replaced, it will be strictly because of convenience, not sound quality. CDs sound dramatically better than any analog format. At the same time, those digital formats claimed to be "better" than CD (eg 2-channel SACD, HDCD, DVD-Audio) do not actually sound better.

 

[Adam]

If CDs do get replaced, it will be strictly because of convenience...

Good enough reason for me. I loved CDs when they came out because they were so much more convenient than records. I loved DVDs because they were more convenient due to the fact that they held more data than CDs (I'm talking music...the digital improvements over consumer-grade magnetic tape for video and audio were amazing, too, IMO). Hard drives...even more. With digital data, it's all about storage. I'm guessing that in less than 20 years, we'll see something that most of us haven't even considered.

 

[3db]

If CDs do get replaced, it will be strictly because of convenience, not sound quality. CDs sound dramatically better than any analog format. At the same time, those digital formats claimed to be "better" than CD (eg 2-channel SACD, HDCD, DVD-Audio) do not actually sound better.

Actually not true. Analog reel to reel masters sound everybit as good as CD. Go ask TLS for more info regarding this.

 

[3db]

Good enough reason for me. I loved CDs when they came out because they were so much more convenient than records. I loved DVDs because they were more convenient due to the fact that they held more data than CDs (I'm talking music...the digital improvements over consumer-grade magnetic tape for video and audio were amazing, too, IMO). Hard drives...even more. With digital data, it's all about storage. I'm guessing that in less than 20 years, we'll see something that most of us haven't even considered.

Thats actually the sad part of it. Its not tangeable anymore. Just files stored on some kind of medium that you just plug in. There is no involvement anymore. Its the difference between a Lexus and a BMW. BMW is a drivers car, its handling is neutral so one can use the throttle to swing the butt around in a turn as opposed to oversteer in front wheel drives which just plough ahead until the throtttle is retarded before regaining traction. Same as road feel and communication of the road seurface thru the steering wheel. BMW gives that to the driver, the Lexus numbs it away. I know it all boils down to preference. I just prefer involvement.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Actually not true. Analog reel to reel masters sound everybit as good as CD. Go ask TLS for more info regarding this.

Perhaps, but only if you had access to original master tape. Copy that master to a CD, the loss is as small as it can possibly be. Make an analog copy, and the loss is already greater than for CD in the first generation. (Not to mention deterioration from repeated plays.)

 

[bandphan]

I can output greater than 44.1 in analog via a dat and the quality is far superior than CD. 44.1 is a low base line. Those who think cd is a superior digital format should do some Research.

 

[mr-ben]

Most of these articles seem to compare Vinyl to downloaded music, which I assume means MP3 or Apple's compressed format. This is a very valid comparison I think - they're very different formats. A CD is somewhere in the middle of them.

I agree with Adam that CD's are on the way out too, giving way to downloadable formats. There's an album I wanted to buy recently that I couldn't get in any format other than as a download (I didn't buy it). People seem to prefer storing their music in little hard drives now for convenience. CD's are more convenient than vinyl, and downloads more than CD's. I suspect that vinyl will probably be around forever, but CD's will not.