5" speakers plus sub or 6" speakers

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sccoopy

Banned
I just talked to my wife, she would not let me buy black sub, only (light) cherry or maple allowed, I guess many candidates are out including Dayton.


When I buy a sub, I do it for one reason for the low bass.

I don't think the Onix x-box sounds good for low bass. I agree with Audioholics and others conculsions. It is good for the price point.

However if you buy an inexpensive sub, then that is what you end up with a cheap sub that you will replace when you can afford it!

I wouldn't buy a Dayton or a Onix X-sub. Here is the sub I would prefer, but it costs $429

YOMD
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
subwoofers are easy to integrate to 2 channel/music systems, you just need a subwoofer that doesn't have much THD (read: not crappy)
Not true. I gave up on subs after trying to integrate several different ones (all of them good) with an equal variety of stereo speakers. In every case, the sub was easily identifiable as a separate source.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
The subs weren't set up properly.

Not true. I gave up on subs after trying to integrate several different ones (all of them good) with an equal variety of stereo speakers. In every case, the sub was easily identifiable as a eparate source.
A properly integrated and positioned sub crossing over at a low enough frequency (< 80 hz) cannot be localized. When I used one with my main stereo sytem, it crossed over around 50 hz.
 
J

Joe Schmoe

Audioholic Ninja
A properly integrated and positioned sub crossing over at a low enough frequency (< 80 hz) cannot be localized. When I used one with my main stereo sytem, it crossed over around 50 hz.
My whole point was that getting it set up properly is extremely difficult. So much so, in fact, that it borders on impossible. (And I was never interested in adding the price of professional calibration to the cost of the sub!)
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Av123

Check out the real wood veneer options on all of the AV123 speakers including their subwoofers.
You can get the MFW-15 sub in cherry :D.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I ain't no pro and I doubt all of us here are either

My whole point was that getting it set up properly is extremely difficult. So much so, in fact, that it borders on impossible. (And I was never interested in adding the price of professional calibration to the cost of the sub!)
All it takes is a bit of time and patience which, IIRC, doesn't cost anything.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I guess many candidates are out including Dayton.
Are there any cost effective way to do something to the exterior of the sub without effecting performance? Would anyone have any ideas?
 
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allargon

Audioholic General
Are there any cost effective way to do something to the exterior of the sub without effecting performance? Would anyone have any ideas?
You can apply a thin layer of veneer (or laminate) yourself if you want with spray on glue.
 
F

fredk

Audioholic General
I wonder how smooth a surface you need to get the veneer to stick properly and how well the glue sticks to a painted surface? You can probably get answers to both of those questions from a veneer supplier though.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
A properly integrated and positioned sub crossing over at a low enough frequency (< 80 hz) cannot be localized. When I used one with my main stereo sytem, it crossed over around 50 hz.
It would help if the receiver had multiple choices of LF cut off frequencies. My Technics is rather useless, 200, 150, and a 100 Hz are my only 3 choices so integrating a sub for music is noty possible for me. But for those of you who have receivers that can adjsut the cuttof in steps of 10 Hz from around 50 to a 150 Hz, one should be able to integrate the sub with the speakers properly in terms of music.

For HT, my towers speakers are set to small and I don't care if the sub runs a little on the hot side :D
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
this is true, but...

It would help if the receiver had multiple choices of LF cut off frequencies. My Technics is rather useless, 200, 150, and a 100 Hz are my only 3 choices so integrating a sub for music is noty possible for me. But for those of you who have receivers that can adjsut the cuttof in steps of 10 Hz from around 50 to a 150 Hz, one should be able to integrate the sub with the speakers properly in terms of music.

For HT, my towers speakers are set to small and I don't care if the sub runs a little on the hot side :D
...OP is talking about integrating a sub into a stereo system, or at least I assume so since he's talking about an integrated amp, not an HT receiver.

As such, his crossover and levels will be determined by the solely sub's internal crossover itself.

But, if he doesn't like the high-pass freq/slope designed into the sub, he may well wind up running the mains full range and using the sub's crossover as a low-pass filter for the sub. That's how I ran my maggie/velodyne combo and it worked quite well.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
...OP is talking about integrating a sub into a stereo system, or at least I assume so since he's talking about an integrated amp, not an HT receiver.

As such, his crossover and levels will be determined by the solely sub's internal crossover itself.

But, if he doesn't like the high-pass freq/slope designed into the sub, he may well wind up running the mains full range and using the sub's crossover as a low-pass filter for the sub. That's how I ran my maggie/velodyne combo and it worked quite well.
Yep. I would agree. :0
 
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