Really Shocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[speakerman39]

Very early this morning there was a shooting at a local plastics factory. The sad part is that at least 6 people have died and many others wounded. Apparently, an employee got into an argument with his supervisor. Then, the employee returned with a hand gun and started shooting other employees that were in the break-room. Unfortunately, my ex-brother-in-law witnessed the entire event unfold. Right now, he is very emotionally shut down and is quite withdrawn.

My heart goes out to my former brother-in-law as well as those whom perished as a result of this tragic event. Lets not forget the families and friends of those whom died as well. Please pray for healing to come to those that are in mourning as a result of this tragic event. My hometown is shocked and is also in mourning from all of this. Right now, I would describe the mood around town as very somber. I can just sense the sadness. Lastly, please say a prayer for all of us as it will be much appreciated. BTW, this event has been on the national news. Just wished my hometown did so for better reasons.


Cheers,

Phil

 

[jamie2112]

Phil, I am really sad to hear that. I just don't understand the violence anymore. There is so much every day that it has actually desensitized many in our country as well as the world. What a sad place this has become when talking is not the answer anymore and violence seems to be more of an everyday thing in our country. Once again Phil I am sorry that your brother-in-law was privy to this horrible shooting. I am glad he was not hurt. Well I guess he was hurt by this as anyone who was involved directly or indirectly to such a horrible crime. I hope he gets the help he needs in this trying time. Best of luck to you Phil. Jamie

 

[j_garcia]

He wasn't harmed physically, but mental scars can be just as deep and painful. My heart goes out to him and all of the families that will now have to deal with the difficult times caused by such a senseless, selfish act.

A good friend of mine was killed in a supposed unintentional shooting. It was a tough thing to hear.

 

[Halon451]

Wow, I didn't realize this story had hit so close to home with one of our own audioholics. My thoughts go out to you and your brother-in-law, as well as everyone up there who has to deal with this senseless tragedy. I hope the scars mend soon and everyone can get on with things.

 

[MDS]

I really don't understand what drives people to do such things. I am saddened at first, but that feeling soon turns to anger. I'm sick and tired of reading about losers that kill their wife or young child and especially those that kill random people that have nothing to do with whatever it is they find wrong with the world.

There is a lot wrong with the world...deal with it...and don't take your anger/hatred/whatever out on other people, especially the innocents that have nothing to do with your particular perception.

I don't want to turn this into a religous debate. I am not quite an atheist, more agnostic because I just don't know....but where is God in all of this? 'God' has been absent from the world scene for thousands of years. He/She should be impeached, because death of the innocents is no part of any 'plan' that makes sense.

 

[chadnliz]

Wow MDS, way to kick it up a notch! Phil, I hope all is well and returns to as close to normal for your family member as soon as posible.

 

[speakerman39]

Phil, I am really sad to hear that. I just don't understand the violence anymore. There is so much every day that it has actually desensitized many in our country as well as the world. What a sad place this has become when talking is not the answer anymore and violence seems to be more of an everyday thing in our country. Once again Phil I am sorry that your brother-in-law was privy to this horrible shooting. I am glad he was not hurt. Well I guess he was hurt by this as anyone who was involved directly or indirectly to such a horrible crime. I hope he gets the help he needs in this trying time. Best of luck to you Phil. Jamie

Hey Jamie thank so very much. I am still in total shock. It appears that the gunman killed 5 people and then took his own life. The police are now saying that the gunman's girlfriend was told about this, but failed to act. In an interview with one of the local news stations, the girlfriend did not take him seriously and went to bed. They had to get an interpreter as the girlfriend did not speak English. Several of the victims were Hispanic, but the shooting does to appear to be racially motivated. Anyways, all prayers will be appreciated as many in the community are grieving.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

He wasn't harmed physically, but mental scars can be just as deep and painful. My heart goes out to him and all of the families that will now have to deal with the difficult times caused by such a senseless, selfish act.

A good friend of mine was killed in a supposed unintentional shooting. It was a tough thing to hear.

Very well spoken John. You just kinda summed things up quite well. It is much appreciated my friend. My bro-in-law was somewhat of a loner to begin with and now has to deal with this. The last word is he is NOT speaking to anyone. I want to help, but in all honesty really don't know what to do. I am affraid I may make things worse.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

Wow, I didn't realize this story had hit so close to home with one of our own audioholics. My thoughts go out to you and your brother-in-law, as well as everyone up there who has to deal with this senseless tragedy. I hope the scars mend soon and everyone can get on with things.

Thanks Halon for your support. Really appreciate the kind words. May God reach out to those directly affected by this. Healing from such a senseless act will surely take some time as well as grieve in different ways. Maybe my bro-in-law will get some counseling.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

I really don't understand what drives people to do such things. I am saddened at first, but that feeling soon turns to anger. I'm sick and tired of reading about losers that kill their wife or young child and especially those that kill random people that have nothing to do with whatever it is they find wrong with the world.

There is a lot wrong with the world...deal with it...and don't take your anger/hatred/whatever out on other people, especially the innocents that have nothing to do with your particular perception.

I don't want to turn this into a religous debate. I am not quite an atheist, more agnostic because I just don't know....but where is God in all of this? 'God' has been absent from the world scene for thousands of years. He/She should be impeached, because death of the innocents is no part of any 'plan' that makes sense.

Hey MDS no offense, but will be glad to discuss this another time. Right now is not the best time to do so. No pun intended my friend. I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the help you have given me over time. Not trying to start a flame-war either. Maybe in a few days we can discuss this via a PM.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

Wow MDS, way to kick it up a notch! Phil, I hope all is well and returns to as close to normal for your family member as soon as posible.

Thanks a bunch for your kind words Chad. Not sure how much time it will take, but I do believe the healing has already began. Some may never get over this while others will be able to. My bro-in-law is a very quiet and shy person, so you never know how he will deal with it. I hope and pray that he gets some counseling and not hold it all in. Only time will tell my friend.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[speakerman39]

Thank God it looks like one of the victims is going to pull through. She is, at least, in stable condition. This is really good news. Right now it is needed here badly.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[Joe Schmoe]

What shocks me is the sheer number of such incidents there have been recently. It also seems to keep increasing!

 

[speakerman39]

What shocks me is the sheer number of such incidents there have been recently. It also seems to keep increasing!

Yeah Joe, sadly it does seem to be increasing throughout this great country. I mean, things are tough and what not but there are always alternatives. What I don't' understand is why the girlfriend did not even attempt to do anything before this incident unfolded. My local paper claims he called her around 10:00 PM and told her he was going to kill his supervisor. There was also some indications that he threatened to kill himself. In a little over 2-hours later he did just that. His girlfriend went back to sleep. She claims that she did not take him seriously. I am not implying it is her fault, but do wished she had done something. This is just a sad situation any way you look at it.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[chadnliz]

For many reasons our society has devalued life, you see it in the poor communities, on our youth and sadly in our work force as this thread is inspired by. Maybe its TV, video games, expectations beyond what folks are willing to work for to achieve but we are no doubt a "me me me" society and I suspect this "me" attitude is behind this behavior in reverse......the thinking "why not JUST me?, if I am miserable I am talking a few with me" its a selfish outlook on life and now it appears death too.
This is just my take on it all.

 

[markw]

My sympathies to your ex BIL.

It matters not what sparked the shooting. Someone evidently couldn't handle the stress of his life and wanted to take it out on others. Simply being in the presence of such a violent outburst, even if one escapes unharmed, can scramble your brains. And, if he was actually in the place when it happened, that will amplify that even more. Be there for him and just let him talk if that's all it takes. Sometimes answers aren't required.

BTW, It's not common for one to stay in touch with ex"s family from a failed marriage. You and he must be (and have been) very, very close. I feel blessed that my ex's brother and I have remained close even after his sister and I divorced 12 years ago. We look at it as being promoted from family to friends.

 

[speakerman39]

My sympathies to your ex BIL.

It matters not what sparked the shooting. Someone evidently couldn't handle the stress of his life and wanted to take it out on others. Simply being in the presence of such a violent outburst, even if one escapes unharmed, can scramble your brains. And, if he was actually in the place when it happened, that will amplify that even more. Be there for him and just let him talk if that's all it takes. Sometimes answers aren't required.

BTW, It's not common for one to stay in touch with ex"s family from a failed marriage. You and he must be (and have been) very, very close. I feel blessed that my ex's brother and I have remained close even after his sister and I divorced 12 years ago. We look at it as being promoted from family to friends.

Mark, thanks for posting as well as the kind words. My ex-bro-in-law was the ONLY person in the break-room that did not get shot. A bullet did just barely missed him though. To be honest, we were really never that close as he is somewhat a loner. You know, just a quiet guy that keeps to himself. To be honest, I have not seen him but been in touch w/my daughtrer. He is her Uncle and they are closer. As such, my daughter has been checking in on him. However, my ex-bro-in-law does live very close to where I do. Hence, my daughter has told him he is welcome here any time if he just needs someone to listen. That really is all I can do right now. I don't want to come across too strong. I am sure he will talk to me about it when and only when he is ready.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[haraldo]

I think it is just so very scary to read about this, I really don't now what to say, it's beyond me what drives people to do such things.

If you turn things the other way around your ex brother in law may look at the bright side (if possible) and be happy to be physically unharmed.

One shooting is one too much !!! how can this be stopped?

Regards and deepest sympathy from me

Harald N

 

[croseiv]

Wow Phil, I'm really sorry to hear about that. I hope your brother will be okay.

 

[speakerman39]

I think it is just so very scary to read about this, I really don't now what to say, it's beyond me what drives people to do such things.

If you turn things the other way around your ex brother in law may look at the bright side (if possible) and be happy to be physically unharmed.

One shooting is one too much !!! how can this be stopped?

Regards and deepest sympathy from me

Harald N

Thank you so much for the kind words. Like you, I do not understand either as to why some choose to take their frustrations out on innocent people.

Cheers,

Phil