quasi "bi-amping"... my Yam V663 to Studio 60s

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Panhandler801

Audioholic Intern
This worth it, or not?

Do all of the receiver channels put out the same amount of power? I don't want power to sit there untapped, but are those last two channels (for 7.1) really two more sources of good clean power, or by usiing them, to "bi-amp" my fronts, am I just diluting the ONE power source that's juicking every other speaker?

I'm not tech buff, so maybe I'm not phrasing this right, but it seems unlikely that this would do any good, because I imagnie that unit is but one power source... no mattyer how you slice the pie.

Seems like it might keep the two fronts a bit clearer, at the expense of the other channels?

Any thoughts? I need things explained to me in simple-stupid terms. I've done plenty of seaches on the net and this forum, but it often times gets too technical for this particular novice.

Thanks.

Looking at Canare 4S11 Cable wire from BJC. If I didn't go with the bi-amping for my two fronts, is it better to use something ilke this 4 cable (14 awg) Canare in single wired connection, or just go with 12 awg standard wire.
 
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rnatalli

Audioholic Ninja
If you have spare wires, try it and see what happens, My guess is you won't notice any difference.
 
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Bluesmoke

Audioholic Chief
Canare's are fantastic wire. I bought it with the intention to bi-wire but then changed my mind.

 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
You’re on the right track about bi-amping with the receiver, don’t bother.
 
mouettus

mouettus

Audioholic Chief
You’re on the right track about bi-amping with the receiver, don’t bother.
Well... my Yamaha has an option to bi-amp the mains with surround back channels if you don't use them. It's gotta be better in a way... or else they wouldn't have bothered with it. I'm not saying there will be a huge difference though as I don't understand either because the power is coming from the same power supply.
 
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Bluesmoke

Audioholic Chief
Honestly, if you want a better quality to your sound, get a good 2 channel amp and then biamp/biwire your speakers to it.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
This worth it, or not?

Do all of the receiver channels put out the same amount of power? I don't want power to sit there untapped, but are those last two channels (for 7.1) really two more sources of good clean power, or by usiing them, to "bi-amp" my fronts, am I just diluting the ONE power source that's juicking every other speaker?
It doesn't matter even slightly. All the amps draw current from the same power supply. If you tap out the power supply, you tap it out whether you do so with 2 amps or 5 amps or 7 amps or 15 amps. The power supply is the limiting factor. It is akin to rearranging the deck chairs on a sinking Titanic.
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
It will help with two channel but much less with surround.

Yamaha's power ratings are fairly conservative for stereo but not for multichannel. Actually, just about any receiver short of NAD exaggerates their Wpc over 7 channels. Nobody has a big enough power supply to push all the claimed watts.

Jim
 
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Panhandler801

Audioholic Intern
It will help with two channel but much less with surround.

Yamaha's power ratings are fairly conservative for stereo but not for multichannel. Actually, just about any receiver short of NAD exaggerates their Wpc over 7 channels. Nobody has a big enough power supply to push all the claimed watts.

Jim
And by two-channel, you mean just playing my two fronts, in Stereo mode. Which I imagine is how I'll be listening to music. So... for music it would help? It's not much additional expense to do it, so, why not?

Also... is there any benefit to using something like the Canare wire (with the 4 wires... two per post) if you're not bi-amping, or bi-wiring?
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Biamping

Well... my Yamaha has an option to bi-amp the mains with surround back channels if you don't use them. It's gotta be better in a way... or else they wouldn't have bothered with it. I'm not saying there will be a huge difference though as I don't understand either because the power is coming from the same power supply.
Yes, the biamping feature makes the receiver better for the purpose of MARKETING. They wouldn't want to the Yamaha to be deamed any lesser than other receiver that includes this "feature".

I wouldn't spend a bunch of money on the biamp experiment buy bulk speaker wire is cheap. If you don't think the studios are getting enough power, then get an amp. You can get a Behringer A500 for <$200.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
I was under the impression by reviews that I have read on receivers, that the fewer channels you are using, the more power will be given to the channels that are being used.
 

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