Really need help on setting up DVD3930CI

[edmcanuck]

I just got my Denon DVD-3930ci machine a few days ago (I bought a modified "Code-Free" version,for unrestricted playback of imported discs)

Hehe, I hope you didn't pay much for your modification

Since it seems to be drawing attention, I will again draw everyone's attention to Denon's Region-free command. The 2930CI and the 3930CI are shipped in North America as NTSC/PAL Region 1 machines; however, Denon lets you easily deactivate the Region-detection and make the units able to play any DVD on Earth. It's not a "hack" nor a warranty-voiding "mod," it's a built-in process on all of the machines that anyone can access if they wish. Instructions as follows:

1. Remove any disc currently in the unit.
2. With the unit on (green light, not red), power off using the front panel On/Off button (not standby).
3. Press and hold Stop and Still/Pause buttons on the front panel (not remote).
4. Keep the above buttons held and Power-up the player using the On/Off button, hold the above buttons for steps 5 and 6:
5. Wait until the unit finishes LOADING and the front panel of the player shows 0:00:00.
6. On the remote handset, press in sequence; 7 3 1 9 4 6 2 8
7. The unit should enter standby mode. On the front panel of the player, press the Standby button to turn the unit back on.
8. To confirm the update, press Stop and Skip Forward (>>I) simultaneously on the front panel . The front panel will briefly display "Region_A1."

Enjoy

 

[h317]

It worked!!! Thanks a lot.

 

[Jeepers]

For Video, I set my 3910 to HDMI RBG, HDMI Black Enhance On, Progressive Mode, 1080i resolution, kept everything @ factory setting except turned both Mid & High Sharpness to -6 and DNR to +6. I think it looks fantastic.

For audio, I turned Direct Source to ON and kept all Channel Levels and Delay to ZERO.

Can anyone tell me when to use HDMI RBG and when HDMI YCbCr ? I know it can be found in the manual on page 29.

 

[PENG]

Can anyone tell me when to use HDMI RBG and when HDMI YCbCr ? I know it can be found in the manual on page 29.

You may want to read this:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/dvd-players/denon-dvd-5910ci/setting-up-the-player

I tried both many times and could not tell the difference in picture quality.

 

[Jeepers]

You may want to read this:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/transports/dvd-players/denon-dvd-5910ci/setting-up-the-player

I tried both many times and could not tell the difference in picture quality.

Thanks. I read the review of the 3930 several times but not the one of the 5910 which I will do later. Anyway I had it on HDMI YCbCr so it wasn't that bad after all.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Can anyone tell me when to use HDMI RBG and when HDMI YCbCr ? I know it can be found in the manual on page 29.

I think it depends on your TV/Display and your picture preference.

When I had it on HDMI YCbCr, the picture was just too "grey" for me since it would not allow Black Enhancement. Only the HDMI RBG allowed Black Enhancement, which gave me a very "black" Black level.

In the Normal Mode (YCbCr), black is like @ "16", instead of "0". This allows for "blacker" than Black, which means GREY.

 

[PhilCohen]

A question about IRE

I have a question about "Picture Adjust".One of the things that can be adjusted is "Setup Level" which gives you a choice of 7.5 IRE(the factory setting) or zero IRE.

I've noted that the zero IRE settings almost totally eliminates the visibility of MPEG artifacts during scenes where total deep black is on much or part of the screen,but alas,during bright scenes(or bright areas of an otherwise dark scene) it reduces contrast,and obscures or darkens otherwise visible picture details.

In either of the two settings(7.5 IRE or zero IRE) there are good and bad things.Either of the two settings involves a compromise.Can you experts tell me what,exactly IRE is? Should I go with the factory setting(7.5 IRE)? Assuming a well encoded DVD,7.5 IRE obviously looks more natural,but on badly encoded discs,zero IRE helps hide artifacts in dark areas,but at the expense of compromising contrast.

I await the feedback from you Denon DVD player experts.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I have a question about "Picture Adjust".One of the things that can be adjusted is "Setup Level" which gives you a choice of 7.5 IRE(the factory setting) or zero IRE.

I've noted that the zero IRE settings almost totally eliminates the visibility of MPEG artifacts during scenes where total deep black is on much or part of the screen,but alas,during bright scenes(or bright areas of an otherwise dark scene) it reduces contrast,and obscures or darkens otherwise visible picture details.

In either of the two settings(7.5 IRE or zero IRE) there are good and bad things.Either of the two settings involves a compromise.Can you experts tell me what,exactly IRE is? Should I go with the factory setting(7.5 IRE)? Assuming a well encoded DVD,7.5 IRE obviously looks more natural,but on badly encoded discs,zero IRE helps hide artifacts in dark areas,but at the expense of compromising contrast.

I await the feedback from you Denon DVD player experts.

I'm no Denon expert, but I'll chime in anyway.

I just reset my Denon 5910CI to HDMI YCbCr, Normal mode (instead of Enhance), both Sharpness to -6, DNR to +3, and IRE to Zero. It just looks the best to me.

I think most "experts" recommend setting the IRE to factory 7.5, DNR to +1, and Sharpness and everything else to Factory "0" setting. But I'm not trying to please the "experts". I'm trying to please myself so whatever looks the best is the CORRECT setting.

 

[eirepaul]

D-Link questions

This is a little off-thread, but not too far. I just got a 2930CI and I am using the Denon Link cable for audio (no HDMI, using component for video). Firstly, I was a bit surprised by how flimsy the D-Link cable is, given that most high-tech cables seem to be pretty thick. Is there an upgrade to this cable out there anywhere, and would it be worth it?

Secondly, I’ve only had the unit a couple of days and as I understand it, if you use the D-Link, processing is performed in the receiver (3805 in my case). Therefore, for me there are no audio settings to be concerned about in the 2930, except D-Link “on” (which greys out audio settings anyway, as previously discussed).

With my 3805, when I switch from “Multi-Channel In” to “Multi-Channel Direct” I seem to lose a lot of bass. Are the multi-channel (D-Link) modes tied to the original “Direct” “Pure Direct” modes? With the D-Link connected it seems to have opened up a few more sound modes I didn’t even know I had. I was connected via multi-channel analog cables to an Onkyo DVD before. Any help from seasoned D-Link users would be much appreciated. I thought it would simplify things, but I don’t quite have the hang of it yet.

Lastly, someone here stated they had preferred the sound of multi-channel analog connections compared to HDMI. Any opinions on D-Link versus analog? I listen to a lot of multi-channel music on SACD and DVD-A.

Thank you.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Lastly, someone here stated they had preferred the sound of multi-channel analog connections compared to HDMI. Any opinions on D-Link versus analog? I listen to a lot of multi-channel music on SACD and DVD-A.

Both the 3805 and 2930CI have the same exact Burr-Brown PCM-1791 DACs, so theorectically it should sound the same regardless the route you use (D-Link 3, HDMI, or 5.1 Analog).

Gene (president of Audioholics) seems to feel that using the D-Link 3 is the preferred route.

If I had a Denon receiver that had the same exact DACs as my Denon SACD/DVD-A player, I would also choose the D-Link 3 route.

I do not think you can send SACD via HDMI, so cross that option out. I think.

I think you can only send SACD via Firewire, D-Link 3, or Analog (Internal Decoding by Player).

But I think overall, the sound should be the same regardless of route.

Yeah, when I use the Source Direct, which bypasses all bass management, I sense a slight decreased in Bass output. But the bass that I do get seems to be tighter and of better quality. I think.

 

[eirepaul]

Yeah, when I use the Source Direct, which bypasses all bass management, I sense a slight decreased in Bass output. But the bass that I do get seems to be tighter and of better quality. I think.

OK - I think you are talking about the source direct in your 3930, which is not available to me in the 2930 when using D-Link. I will have to play with the sub level settings in the 3805 to attempt to balance it out. Right now, I think I have different sub level settings for multi-channel output versus standard 2-channel CD output from the 2930. It’s a little strange because I had everything set perfectly through the tone generator on the 3805.

Thank you for responding.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

OK - I think you are talking about the source direct in your 3930, which is not available to me in the 2930 when using D-Link. I will have to play with the sub level settings in the 3805 to attempt to balance it out. Right now, I think I have different sub level settings for multi-channel output versus standard 2-channel CD output from the 2930. It’s a little strange because I had everything set perfectly through the tone generator on the 3805.

Thank you for responding.

Yes, I was using Source Direct in my 5910CI. I think using the D-Link3 also bypasses all bass & speaker management in the player itself. Now your receiver has to do the speaker & bass management.

I actually manage my subwoofer @ the subwoofer itself, instead of the player or pre-pro/receiver. But I suppose any way is okay.

 

[caupina]

Hehe, I hope you didn't pay much for your modification

Since it seems to be drawing attention, I will again draw everyone's attention to Denon's Region-free command. The 2930CI and the 3930CI are shipped in North America as NTSC/PAL Region 1 machines; however, Denon lets you easily deactivate the Region-detection and make the units able to play any DVD on Earth. It's not a "hack" nor a warranty-voiding "mod," it's a built-in process on all of the machines that anyone can access if they wish. Instructions as follows:

1. Remove any disc currently in the unit.
2. With the unit on (green light, not red), power off using the front panel On/Off button (not standby).
3. Press and hold Stop and Still/Pause buttons on the front panel (not remote).
4. Keep the above buttons held and Power-up the player using the On/Off button, hold the above buttons for steps 5 and 6:
5. Wait until the unit finishes LOADING and the front panel of the player shows 0:00:00.
6. On the remote handset, press in sequence; 7 3 1 9 4 6 2 8
7. The unit should enter standby mode. On the front panel of the player, press the Standby button to turn the unit back on.
8. To confirm the update, press Stop and Skip Forward (>>I) simultaneously on the front panel . The front panel will briefly display "Region_A1."

Enjoy

Does this really work????....I've been putting off buying some concert DVDs Region 2 because my 2930CI is region 1 only. Thanks for your input.

 

[h317]

Yes, it worked on my 3930CI.

 

[caupina]

Yes, it worked on my 3930CI.

I'll try it. It just got me thinking 'cause I didn't see much discussion on this issue by the other members so I thought maybe it was meant as BS, but if you confirm it, then what I have got to lose, right????