Have I been stood up?

[Johnd]

Possible if there is a club that is not also a bar. This being OKC, I am not sure. (Tough to start a conversation, though, as the music is invariably way loud.)

If one puts their mind to it, they can meet a nice woman just about anywhere...it is not limited to the confines of bars, clubs, and online dating services.

One can meet a nice woman at the:

- Church (oh, that's right Joe...nevermind)
- Church functions (oops...nevermind again)
- coffee shop
- grocery store (the "Meat Market")
- library
- walking down the street
- beach
- work
etc., etc., etc.

The first step is the "meet", and if both desire, they can proceed from there.

 

[Halon451]

If one puts their mind to it, they can meet a nice woman just about anywhere...it is not limited to the confines of bars, clubs, and online dating services.

One can meet a nice woman at the:

- Church (oh, that's right Joe...nevermind)
- Church functions (oops...nevermind again)
- coffee shop
- grocery store (the "Meat Market")
- library
- walking down the street
- beach
- work
etc., etc., etc.

The first step is the "meet", and if both desire, they can proceed from there.

And the more time you spend here listening to us yahoos is time you could have spent doing these things. You're not going to meet anyone sitting in front of your computer on an A/V site.

I vote Library (or bookstore for that matter) - if she's there, you know she's probably smart, she's not out getting drunk, it's not usually loud, apparently you'll be able to notice from across the room whether or not she smokes, and you have everything in place that you need in order to strike up a conversation (what book she is reading, for example).

Here, you will want to make sure no rings are on their fingers - whereas clubs you might be wanting to make sure there isn't an Adam's apple.

 

[Johnd]

I vote Library (or bookstore for that matter)

Halon good morning. Haven't brewed your coffee yet, have you? The "BOOKSTORE" is what spawned this whole debacle in the first place! jk

I absolutely agree with your premise. Time's a wasting. And av sites are not exactly infamous for their bevy of beautiful babes!

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Funny how all this advice leads us full circle. The bookstore is precisely how I met the woman who led to starting this thread in the first place. (Also, it was being rejected by her that led me to try the internet dating service, with no results so far.)
If I were not on this computer, I would most definitely not be out doing other things. Why? Because I visit this site only when I am at work!

 

[Johnd]

Funny how all this advice leads us full circle. The bookstore is precisely how I met the woman who led to starting this thread in the first place. (Also, it was being rejected by her that led me to try the internet dating service, with no results so far.)
If I were not on this computer, I would most definitely not be out doing other things. Why? Because I visit this site only when I am at work!

So...as I am the penultimate instigator, is that to say you have now ruled out bookstores for future hunting?

 

[Joe Schmoe]

So...as I am the penultimate instigator, is that to say you have now ruled out bookstores for future hunting?

Of course not. I have not ruled out anywhere other than places I don't go.
(I have never seriously considered asking anyone at work or where I live, though, as that could lead to trouble. Relationships end, sometimes badly, and being unable to avoid seeing each other frequently after that would be awkward at best.)

 

[Halon451]

Halon good morning. Haven't brewed your coffee yet, have you? The "BOOKSTORE" is what spawned this whole debacle in the first place! jk

I absolutely agree with your premise. Time's a wasting. And av sites are not exactly infamous for their bevy of beautiful babes!

I know... I guess the intentional irony was lost in my words. But, on a related note, he's aiming for the busy girl working the register, not the casual strollers amongst the shelves, busy reading up on the latest liberal publications.

 

[Johnd]

I know... I guess the intentional irony was lost in my words. But, on a related note, he's aiming for the busy girl working the register, not the casual strollers amongst the shelves, busy reading up on the latest liberal publications.

Hah! Good one!

Conservative v liberal, socialist v capitalist, spiritual v atheist or agnostic, etc.

 

[stratman]

I met the cave-wife in a bar in Coconut Grove called Murphy's Law, she's a friend of a friend, we met over casual drinks on a Friday night, my friend slick as she is, set up a sushi dinner for the following Friday, it was stipulated that we all were going to go, Friday night about 20 minutes before we were to meet at the restaurant, my friend called in sick (yes she's slick, that's why she's an attorney), anyway, I get a call from my wife to be and she's a bit freaked: "Sandy just called, she can't make it, she's feeling sick." I being slicker told her, "well if you're in the mood for sushi, I don't mind picking you up, I'm starving." "Sure, I'm hungry, I just hope Sandy's OK." "Oh, she'll be fine, I'll be right over." Ten years later...we're still happily married.

 

[Halon451]

Joe's probably against sushi too...

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Joe's probably against sushi too...

It is fine as long as the fish has been cooked.

 

[Tarub]

Joe, one of the best way to find a right woman for you is just like finding a good job.... is by REFERENCES. A friend or a relative can refer you to their employer and tells them how good worker you are. They will listen to their good employee's recommedation rather than taking chances on people that just submitted their resume which some or most might not be true.

You have friends, relatives, co-workers or neigboors that has single woman friends or relatives that can hook you up with. Your co-workers wife might have a hottie sister or a friend. Those References will give inputs to that woman you like of how good person and gentleman you are. Also they can give you inputs about that woman and find out what are her weaknesses and likes.
Some woman doesnt like spending time to a stranger that they just met that might be a Al Bundy type guy that can sweet talk them and then butcher them or take advantage on something. And same thing with you. The woman that you might meet at the bar, clubs or even library are just looking for a prey for them to get money or something.

I met my wife thru her cousin which happens to be my shipmate when I was in the Navy. Gosh, that is almost 17 years ago.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Those References will give inputs to that woman you like of how good person and gentleman you are.

Has it occured to you that maybe I am not a good person and/or a gentleman?

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Has it occured to you that maybe I am not a good person and/or a gentleman?

Then you should not have a problem getting a girl. They like us pigs

 

[Tarub]

Has it occured to you that maybe I am not a good person and/or a gentleman?

NO! You have two chicklet and one more post you will be an Audioholic Samurai. You cant have those if you are not a good person.
Congratulations anyway.

 

[Johnd]

SAMURAI I AM!!!

rofl

 

[Halon451]

Has it occured to you that maybe I am not a good person and/or a gentleman?

Yes. But your grocery list of dislikes paints you as rather whiny, wimpy and godless. Not saying this is true, but think of how you present yourself - take a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are the alpha male that every woman craves (whether she admits it or not), and what you actually have to offer her, rather than focusing on what any given woman is to you upon first meeting. I don't think you're an indecent person and are fully capable of being a gentleman - I just think you're shy, underconfident, and too damn picky.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

You are probably right. Before the bookstore gal, I had gone years without a date and didn't really miss it. (Mind you, I miss sex, but not a serious relationship.) I am too self-centered to have anything to offer a woman, and enough of a natural hermit not to care. Almost all of the activities I enjoy are inherently solitary, marriage and/or fatherhood have never been options, and I don't do compromise. Even the logistics of dating (where, when, getting there, getting back, etc.) seem like too much effort these days.
My best bet at this point may be to shift my focus to trying to get laid occasionally, and leave it at that.
Oh, and I am almost the exact opposite of an "alpha male" type. Is there an "omega male"?

 

[Johnd]

Yes. But your grocery list of dislikes paints you as rather whiny, wimpy and godless. Not saying this is true, but think of how you present yourself - take a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are the alpha male that every woman craves (whether she admits it or not), and what you actually have to offer her, rather than focusing on what any given woman is to you upon first meeting. I don't think you're an indecent person and are fully capable of being a gentleman - I just think you're shy, underconfident, and too damn picky.

Damn poignant Halon! I was alluding to that very fact for whoa, these last couple of pages. What was that you wrote to me the other day?..."slapped like a stepchild"? Whenever I cut to the chase like that, I get slammed. And so now I've taken the more gentile approach...only to be ignored. Maybe I'll get more...direct...again.

 

[Johnd]

- I had gone years without a date and didn't really miss it...
- Mind you, I miss sex, but not a serious relationship...
- I am too self-centered...
- to have anything to offer a woman...
- and enough of a natural hermit not to care...
- all of the activities I enjoy are inherently solitary...
- marriage and/or fatherhood have never been options...
- and I don't do compromise...
- Even the logistics of dating (where, when, getting there, getting back, etc.) seem like too much effort these days...
- My best bet at this point may be to shift my focus to trying to get laid occasionally, and leave it at that...
- I am almost the exact opposite of an "alpha male" type. Is there an "omega male"?

I don't get it Joe. Why don't women want you? You seem like such a babe magnet and exhibit only the best attributes that all of the best women are attracted to. Women are at a huge loss without all of the above "stuff," let alone from a self-proclaimed "Omega Man."