Speaker Recommendations - - - $2800 to $3500 budget

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20Glove

Audioholic
Hello all!

Everyone on here is helpful, that is why I keep coming back. I am working on a couple of reviews for a few products that I want to post here to help others, but....

In the meantime... I have decided to put together a $2800 to $3500 set of speakers. (7.1 with at least two tower speakers, no sub needed as I have two subs- - - So just in need of pr of towers, center, and 4 surrounds).

I am looking to find out from all of you which speakers would you suggest if I have a Denon avr-3808 or use my Onkyo 805 as my receiver in a 16' by 14' space.

I listen to mostly rock n roll/heavy metal/ southern rock (60%) R&B/ Rap (25%), and movie sound tracks/ classical/ opera (15%).

I will also use it to listen to 7.1 surround sound home theatre. Breakdown of Movies (50%) and Music (50%).

I have been told that Klipsch Reference and JBL Studio L series are good rock and roll/ movie speakers.

I am not tied to those but would like some suggestions on which brands I should look at and what would sound best with the specs from above. Would you need any other information to help with this suggestion?

Thank you!
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Okay my take:

Front L+R = Definitive BP10B = $1,000
Center = Definitive CLR3000 = $1,000
Surround Sides and Backs = SM450 = $1,200

Total = $3,200
 
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20Glove

Audioholic
So Def Tech?

Okay my take:

Front L+R = Definitive BP10B = $1,000
Center = Definitive CLR3000 = $1,000
Surround Sides and Backs = SM450 = $1,200

Total = $3,200
Thank you for that information... could I mix and match the SM450 with the BP2X??

I am wondering if the Dipoles would be better for surround than the SM450?


I also owned a pair of BP10's from 2000 and I liked them but did not love them. I thought they sounded a bit bland. If that is the case... would you maybe recommend the Def Tech powered front towers? Or is that too much power for a 16' by 14' room?

I have heard great reviews on the CLR 3000, clarity is amazing is what I have heard and red about them.

Let me know.
 
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deedubb

Full Audioholic
My first recommendation to you is to audition, audition, and then audition some more. What sounds good to one ear may not sound good to another's. Second recommendation; make sure you check out PSB if you have a dealer near you.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Thank you for that information... could I mix and match the SM450 with the BP2X??

I am wondering if the Dipoles would be better for surround than the SM450?


I also owned a pair of BP10's from 2000 and I liked them but did not love them. I thought they sounded a bit bland. If that is the case... would you maybe recommend the Def Tech powered front towers? Or is that too much power for a 16' by 14' room?

I have heard great reviews on the CLR 3000, clarity is amazing is what I have heard and red about them.

Let me know.
Wow somebody actually not totally in love with their def tech's? If you feel that your current sound is bland, then what kind of sound are you seeking? I myself like PSB's and consider them a bit laid back, but most certainly not bland. Maybe some axioms M60's/M80's or something of that nature?
 
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chadnliz

Senior Audioholic
I owned Def Tech speakers in the past, while they are a pretty good value they can be bright, harsh and not for everyone. You need to audition multiple speakers and listen with material you are familiar with, IMO nobody can simply ask another what speakers to buy and expect to be happy, while you may get lucky it is too risky to end up miserable and having to spend more money to correct your mistake.
 
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20Glove

Audioholic
Well liked but not loved Def Techs

Wow somebody actually not totally in love with their def tech's? If you feel that your current sound is bland, then what kind of sound are you seeking? I myself like PSB's and consider them a bit laid back, but most certainly not bland. Maybe some axioms M60's/M80's or something of that nature?
I was running my BP10's with BP-1X and a CLR 2002 with the SCIII sub. I thought the SCIII or the supercube was weak!! I bought a Martin Logan Dynamo and that just blows the SCIII away!!! TIGHT TIGHT CLEAR CLEAR BASS!!!

As far as the BP10's I thought when listening to Skynard or Kiss or Aerosmith the sound was well not clear, flat, and muffled... I felt when listening to the Police or Prince or (ok do not make fun) Duran Duran, the sound seemed to go up the wall and surround me, very clear, wide, and amazing. I think if I would have tried the same music with the BP10's and the Martin Logan Sub the experience would have been different. I just think rock and roll/hard rock music sounded flat with the BP10 and SCIII set up. So that is what was bland to my ear!

So you are the second person to suggest PSB's.

Thanks!
 
2

20Glove

Audioholic
But aren't there speakers that are considered hard rock type speakers?

I owned Def Tech speakers in the past, while they are a pretty good value they can be bright, harsh and not for everyone. You need to audition multiple speakers and listen with material you are familiar with, IMO nobody can simply ask another what speakers to buy and expect to be happy, while you may get lucky it is too risky to end up miserable and having to spend more money to correct your mistake.
I will listen to what people are suggesting... I will not go out and buy on a whim what people suggest but at least I want to get an idea of what to buy and listen too b4 buying.... but I do not want to just buy Def Tech or Polk cause that is all my dealer has... I want to find the speakers that people suggest and go listen. So that is why I started this post.

Plus I have heard that some speakers cater to hard rock/rock n roll music, is this not true?

Thanks!
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I was running my BP10's with BP-1X and a CLR 2002 with the SCIII sub. I thought the SCIII or the supercube was weak!! I bought a Martin Logan Dynamo and that just blows the SCIII away!!! TIGHT TIGHT CLEAR CLEAR BASS!!!

As far as the BP10's I thought when listening to Skynard or Kiss or Aerosmith the sound was well not clear, flat, and muffled... I felt when listening to the Police or Prince or (ok do not make fun) Duran Duran, the sound seemed to go up the wall and surround me, very clear, wide, and amazing. I think if I would have tried the same music with the BP10's and the Martin Logan Sub the experience would have been different. I just think rock and roll/hard rock music sounded flat with the BP10 and SCIII set up. So that is what was bland to my ear!

So you are the second person to suggest PSB's.

Thanks!
Ooh, yeah, sounds like you may not have enough space to fully accomodate Bipolar front speakers, which require at least 3 ft from the sides and front walls for the clearest sound possible. You should stick to front direct-radiating speakers--speakers that are much easier to place.
In that case, I will have to recommend something else.:D
 
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gus6464

Audioholic Samurai
Take a look also at the Dali Ikon line, Paradigm Studio if you stick with 40's in the front, B&W 68x series (683 fronts), Monitor Audio RS series (RS6 fronts). There are just too many options to list so just make yourself a long list of brands and see if there are dealers in your area. I just listed the brands that have a large distribution network in the USA so it should not be hard to find a store that carries them.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
I was running my BP10's with BP-1X and a CLR 2002 with the SCIII sub. I thought the SCIII or the supercube was weak!! I bought a Martin Logan Dynamo and that just blows the SCIII away!!! TIGHT TIGHT CLEAR CLEAR BASS!!!

As far as the BP10's I thought when listening to Skynard or Kiss or Aerosmith the sound was well not clear, flat, and muffled... I felt when listening to the Police or Prince or (ok do not make fun) Duran Duran, the sound seemed to go up the wall and surround me, very clear, wide, and amazing. I think if I would have tried the same music with the BP10's and the Martin Logan Sub the experience would have been different. I just think rock and roll/hard rock music sounded flat with the BP10 and SCIII set up. So that is what was bland to my ear!

So you are the second person to suggest PSB's.

Thanks!
Like your taste in music nothing like some good ole classic rock(as for duran duran I saw them in concert;)). I mostly listen to classic rock and 80's stuff. Of the half dozen speakers in my recent travels the PSB Image and Energy RC's rank among the better ones. If you are willing to go the ID route than check out brands like aperion, av123 or ascend OR as mentioned eariler axiom.

Good luck, Billy P
 
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AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I just still cannot believe that Aperion actually let you audition their speakers truly for free -- free shipping to your house, and then free shipping back to Aperion if you don't like their speakers 30 days or less later.

It seems like you have nothing to lose (money-wise), except for your time in repacking and shipping the speakers back to Aperion.

It seems like everyone else gives you free shipping to your house, but then charges you $100 to ship them back! That's not a free audition.:D
 
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Paradise

Enthusiast
How about an entire Monitor Audio Silver system?

1 pair of RS6's
1 RS LCR
2 pair RSFX

$2996 retail.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
What I would do is to take a pad of paper with you, write down the make and
model of each speaker you audition and what you liked and disliked about the
speakers you were auditioning. Was the bass tight and deep or was it boomy and loose sounding? Were the mids life like or were they hollow or just too pronounced? Was the treble irritating and harsh or were they dark and not revealing or were they smooth that made you want to listen for more? How was the imaging?

Bring music with you that you are very familiar with and know quite well. To
make it easier to audition HT speaker systems, listen to the main speakers in 2
channel mode with music. Music is much harder to reproduce acurately then a movie soundtrack so if the speakers do well with music, then they will do well with HT. Speakers that do HT well may not do well with music. When auditioning the center channel of the same brand and series as the main speakers, , pick a difficult source like an announcer that mumbles alot. If you can makeout what the mumbling announcer has to say, then you have a good center channel.

I would go to speciality stores first and start auditioning speakers first
instead of going to the internet first. Once your likes are determined, you can
mention them here and fellow members can make internet brand recommnedations based on your likes/dislikes. The specality stores are better setup acousticaly then the big box stores which will make auditioning a little easier. It will give you an idea of what you like in a speaker.

Keep track of what amp or receiver is powering the speakers you're auditioning. Try to get a receiver/amp that closest resembles what you have or want to get. It just reduces another variable when audtioning speakers.

One thing to keep note off. When auditioning speakers, make sure the volume
levels are matched between the diiferent speaker pairs because the louder
speaker pair will always sound better. Listen to levels that you think you
would listen to most of the time because thats how you are going to be using
them most of the time. Blasting is fun too but only do it if you think you'll
listen to them at loud volume levels once in a while. Refer to my 2nd paragraph for a few points to listen too.

Now on with the recommendations...

My musical tastes range far and wide just like yours from classical to rock, blues to folk and everything else in between. I have picked my HT based around the towers to play music well. I went with PSB Image series speakers having the T45s towers, the older Image8C (now C40) center and 1B (now B15) surrounds. The Image series is a versatile speaker as it plays everything well with good imaging, broad deep soundstage, detailed highs without them sounding etchy or fatiquing, fleshed out mids and good tight bass.
There are a few PSB diehards in here. I'm probbaly their biggest fanboy on this site but what can I say. They work very well for me :)

http://www.psbspeakers.com/Image-home-theater-systems
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
As you look for brands to audition, look for an Era dealer. I listen to a lot of loud rock music on my D5's and they sound great. I'll pound out the likes of Rage Against the Machine, Sabbath, Metallica, etc. then put on Spyro Gyra or George Benson the next day, my wife will crank out her disco and it all sounds great, even when I put on some Mozart or other classical stuff of SACD.

Unlike 3db, I can't claim to be the biggest fanboy on the site for Era because I'm probably the only Era fanboy on the site. But they are certainly worth an audition. A full set in that price range would go:

D10 towers - $1700
D4 LCR - $500
D4 surrounds - $600/pr

Since you already have good subs, using D5's up front is also a solid option instead of towers.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
As you look for brands to audition, look for an Era dealer. I listen to a lot of loud rock music on my D5's and they sound great. I'll pound out the likes of Rage Against the Machine, Sabbath, Metallica, etc. then put on Spyro Gyra or George Benson the next day, my wife will crank out her disco and it all sounds great, even when I put on some Mozart or other classical stuff of SACD.

Unlike 3db, I can't claim to be the biggest fanboy on the site for Era because I'm probably the only Era fanboy on the site. But they are certainly worth an audition. A full set in that price range would go:

D10 towers - $1700
D4 LCR - $500
D4 surrounds - $600/pr

Since you already have good subs, using D5's up front is also a solid option instead of towers.
That makes you the biggest fanboy for Era by default :D
 
Davemcc

Davemcc

Audioholic Spartan
That makes you the biggest fanboy for Era by default :D
I know there are other happy Era owners here, but they're not around enough to be called fanboys. I'm just happy if I can get somebody to audition them. The rest is up to their own ears...and wallets, I know the Era aren't inexpensive. Also, I wouldn't recommend them except the OP says he has a 3808, which will drive them fine. I can't recommend them to somebody that doesn't have a solid receiver or separate amps.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I know there are other happy Era owners here, but they're not around enough to be called fanboys. I'm just happy if I can get somebody to audition them. The rest is up to their own ears...and wallets, I know the Era aren't inexpensive. Also, I wouldn't recommend them except the OP says he has a 3808, which will drive them fine. I can't recommend them to somebody that doesn't have a solid receiver or separate amps.
Thats my goal too. Have the OP audition as many as possible. That way the OP has made an informed decision.

I found out today via a flyer that Ottawa has a Def Tech dealer which I didn't know. This same dealr carries Totenm as well and I know now the retail price for the Totem Winds is around $9.8K .
 

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