gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
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Downloadable media will never displace had disc sales in the home theater market. People like owning a disc and the Audioholics like us prefer better audio and video quality.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
I'm as red as they come, but this cuts off our rental air supply. :eek: Hollywood Video and Blockbuster Online? It's back to SD DVD upconversion for me.

I don't know why the Blu guys are celebrating on other forums. With HD DVD gone, there won't be as many (*cough* none) buy one get one free deals.

I never watched extras with SD DVD's. However, I found some of the online stuff with HD DVD compelling. It will no doubt make its way into Blu-Ray with Warner's experience. Unfortunately it will be awhile (if ever) before the Blu players reach the awesome pricing that HD DVD players did last year.

Off my soapbox, the Netflix CEO said that Blu-Ray had the edge and that they would be resolving their high def disc supply problems in a couple of weeks. I guess we should've seen it coming.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/forum/index.php?m=02&y=08&entry=entry080204-051106

http://www.tvpredictions.com/netflix012408.htm
Well look at it this way, this is only round one. By far the biggest challenge to the hi def format hasn't begun yet. The day that BD starts going after SD DVD is when we'll see what it's made of. Try and convince Joe and Mary Blow to switch to a new format when their old format is just fine. If the economy really slows down that'll be next to impossible. Player prices will stumble drastically as more and more manufacturers start producing cheap BD players creating economy of scale. Market signals still favor mass discounts and freebies as BD will have to make inroads into the mainstream population, something that neither HD DVD or BD has been able to do, so far they're both niche players with less than 10% market penetration. So far SD DVD is the king of the hill and in my opinion BD will have to drop prices dramatically before you see wholesale adoption.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Toshiba will be left hanging dry by the start of summer.
 
kicknsupra

kicknsupra

Audioholic
I'll be keeping my HD DVD player, and the movies... And trying to suck down as many cheap titles as I can. It's virtually the same movie experience on either side, so I might as well use what I have and horde what I can if it's cheap. I have a PoS3 for BD movies. I have less of those right now, because the PS3 is less convenient than a stand alone player as I had to use kind of a hack like solution to get my Harmony remote control to work. Anyway, sell me your HD DVDs for like $5 each! *grin*
yeah what he said i am going to do the same thing i had to buy a cheap intec remote for my ps3 to make it work with my harmony
i cant wait to find some cheap hd-dvds
ebay here i come:D
 
Downloadable media will never displace had disc sales in the home theater market. People like owning a disc and the Audioholics like us prefer better audio and video quality.
See? Even internally we don't agree on everything all the time... Complex issue to be sure...
 
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Buckeye_Nut

Audioholic Field Marshall
I'm glad I chose to return my HD-DVD player on January 5th while I was still inside the 30day return window.

I almost kept it for the sole purpose of renting HD-DVDs on netflix!! I figured as cheap as they players have become, it would make a nice compliment to my BD player. I did return it but only because it seemed like my queue was filled mostly with BDs anway, so I didn't think it was worth keeping.

With both BBuster and Netflix now abandoning the format.......geez. Those players have become all but useless unless you're willing to purchase every single movie you watch.
 
W

westcott

Audioholic General
THe point that most people miss is that we are in a huge transition right now with TV. While music may be portable, having the best quality source for our new bigscreen tvs at home is important. The fact of the matter is once you spend a few days watching HD content, DVDs just dont look as good anymore. With that being said, people like to own their movies which has been proven over the last decade with DVDs. Once the price of Blu-ray discs fall to $15 to $20 (DVDs used to be $20-30 a pop) adoption will increase substantially.

The statement about profile 1.0 players not playing movies is totally bogus! I have yet to play a movie in my Sony BDP-S1 with a glitch. The later profiles are for extra features ONLY. Besides, most if not all players can be updated via firmware to address any issues with playback.
I have run across several BR discs that will not play in my BD-P1200 player. I have yet to have a disc not work in my HDXA2. As others have said, BR was rushed to market with way too many shortcomings for consumers to have to deal with. I too was hoping to use NetFlix so that I would not have to buy either discs.

In the meantime, I will keep checking for the latest firmware updates, making a list of all the movies I wanted to watch but couldn't, and hating Sony just as much as I ever did. And for what? A marginal difference in video quality that is more dependant on transfer effort than the technology.
 

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