SACD Cables vs. Standard RCA Cables

PHANofPHUNK

PHANofPHUNK

Full Audioholic
So I see all the sacd cable packages, but cant you just use rca cables? Or do you need a subwoofer cable to pass the low freq.?:confused:
 
Geno

Geno

Senior Audioholic
All these cables do the same thing. There are a number of good articles on this website explaining this.
 
J

Johnd

Audioholic Samurai
So I see all the sacd cable packages, but cant you just use rca cables? Or do you need a subwoofer cable to pass the low freq.?:confused:
No, standard rca will work just fine.

Sw cable? You simply need six analog cables patched from your player to receiver. Cheers.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
I used two sets of component video cables. If this is a bad idea, please let me know.
With HDMI being all the rage, component video cables on eBay ought to be dirt cheap.
 
J

Johnd

Audioholic Samurai
I used two sets of component video cables. If this is a bad idea, please let me know.
I would say it is "bad" Alex only if they were inordinately expensive, as compared to six individual analog cables, because, after all, that's all component cables are, only neatly packaged in a bundle of three. Cheers.
 
F

fmw

Audioholic Ninja
SACD cables? Are they trying to get in on the Digital bit rate issue? What would SACD have to do with an analog cable?
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
I would say it is "bad" Alex only if they were inordinately expensive, as compared to six individual analog cables, because, after all, that's all component cables are, only neatly packaged in a bundle of three. Cheers.
I'm not so sure about that. Component cables should be sweep tested @ 3000 Ghz and have different properties as far as capacitance and inductance are concerned. I read a bunch of stuff at BJC but I can't pretend to really understand it. I didn't pay a lot for what I have and am good with my cables until my gear is in a permanent place. Then I will take $100 or so and spend it on BJC.

Even if I do nail down a concept like inductance, I loose my grip on it in a few months. It's like a new language that doesn't get used. But I'm pretty sure that there are differences from audio and component cables.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
SACD cables? Are they trying to get in on the Digital bit rate issue? What would SACD have to do with an analog cable?
I think I'm using the DAC in my player and transferring an analog signal to my receiver for amplification via the 6 channel outs.
 
J

Johnd

Audioholic Samurai
I'm not so sure about that. Component cables should be sweep tested @ 3000 Ghz and have different properties as far as capacitance and inductance are concerned. I read a bunch of stuff at BJC but I can't pretend to really understand it. I didn't pay a lot for what I have and am good with my cables until my gear is in a permanent place. Then I will take $100 or so and spend it on BJC.

Even if I do nail down a concept like inductance, I loose my grip on it in a few months. It's like a new language that doesn't get used. But I'm pretty sure that there are differences from audio and component cables.
My understanding, Alex, is that component video cables are 75 ohm coaxial. The bandwidth (and length) has to do with hdmi, which, I am happy to write, are succesfully passing through my component cables, btw. :) As 75 ohm coaxial they (I believe) meet the criteria of passing analog audio. Shielding and bandwidth? That's another matter.
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Well, for "SACD cables" you can forget about all those ratings into the ghz range.

You'e only talking about a range up to maybe 20 khz for audio frequencies.
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Thanks for laying down the facts mark. Nobody listens (or believes) to me! :eek::p
It's not that I don't believe you so much as it is that I don't know you in that way. Another thing to consider is that it's tough for one of these points to get through to me due to the level I'm at. Nothing personal.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
My understanding, Alex, is that component video cables are 75 ohm coaxial. The bandwidth (and length) has to do with hdmi, which, I am happy to write, are succesfully passing through my component cables, btw. :) As 75 ohm coaxial they (I believe) meet the criteria of passing analog audio. Shielding and bandwidth? That's another matter.
Those cables you call SACD are audio cables and any decent audio cable will do.

How on earth do you pass HDMI signals down component video cables? What about the communications port for instance and the connector? Your statement makes no sense to me.
 
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henry lee

Audiophyte
no to video cable's

I used two sets of component video cables. If this is a bad idea, please let me know.
With HDMI being all the rage, component video cables on eBay ought to be dirt cheap.
The video cable only carries a limited frequency response, inorder to achieve the low frequencies that a sub is capable of. A regular rca cable will produce all the low frequencies that the sub is cable of.(have already tried a video cable the rca in comparison is like night and day).
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
huh? Sometimes you're better off letting sleeping threads lie.

The video cable only carries a limited frequency response, inorder to achieve the low frequencies that a sub is capable of. A regular rca cable will produce all the low frequencies that the sub is cable of.(have already tried a video cable the rca in comparison is like night and day).
You might want to reword what you're trying to say because if you're saying what I think you saying, you're dead wrong.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
The video cable only carries a limited frequency response, inorder to achieve the low frequencies that a sub is capable of.
Can you expand on this please? In detail if possible. Maybe including the frequency bands and limits?

A regular rca cable will produce all the low frequencies that the sub is cable of.(have already tried a video cable the rca in comparison is like night and day).
WOW, night and day? That is a huge difference. I bet the cable specifications would reflect these huge differences, right? Would you mind posting some specs for these different cables?
By the way, how do you know all this? Your experiment?
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I'm not so sure about that. Component cables should be sweep tested @ 3000 Ghz and have different properties as far as capacitance and inductance are concerned. I read a bunch of stuff at BJC but I can't pretend to really understand it. I didn't pay a lot for what I have and am good with my cables until my gear is in a permanent place. Then I will take $100 or so and spend it on BJC.

Even if I do nail down a concept like inductance, I loose my grip on it in a few months. It's like a new language that doesn't get used. But I'm pretty sure that there are differences from audio and component cables.
3000 GHz? Coax is usually tested and marked for the highest frequency, usually 3GHz.
 
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