Lexicon MC-12 and high end processors, you pay for the name.

[highfihoney]

Notice how he keeps inserting things to provoke argurements,its his trolling method,no matter the response his method is to respond to every post with another provication.

Take notice of the fact that he dont deny he's a troll or any of these other user names,instead he just ignore's it(like he didnt even read it) & continue's provoking others.

Before this screen name he's now using is banned he will have this thread & many others complete wrecks,its what he's paid to do.

 

[asahikasei]

Someone posting their "OPINIONS" on the net doesnt make me mad, as you know your opinion is the only right answer, if someone stated that there is better sound, you would rip right in.

Its a little more then an opinion since I have pictures proving the build of high end units. The high end always said that their products had superior power and pre amp sections but this is not true. My mind is not set so if you can prove why/where the sonic improvment comes from we can go from there.

So tell me why would anyone buy a more expensive product that shares some components with less expensive product, based on your logic??

Name and for show.

do you really think that your smarter than everyone that purchases highend equipment?

Obviously since what they say is not true, remember the cable tread on AVS where they could not tell the difference between $30,000 transparent cables and basic monster cables?

 

[asahikasei]

Notice how he keeps inserting things to provoke argurements,its his trolling method,no matter the response his method is to respond to every post with another provication.

Take notice of the fact that he dont deny he's a troll or any of these other user names,instead he just ignore's it(like he didnt even read it) & continue's provoking others.

Once again how am I trolling? If I did not have pictures then you could state that. Again with the provoking, how am I doing this by posting pictures and links to back me up?

 

[asahikasei]

http://www.smr-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=461&PN=2

This is from a lexicon forum.

Speculation from the previous RV-5 thread seems correct. The specs appear to match the H/K AVR-745.

http://www.lexicon.com/products/specs.asp?ID=26

http://www.harmankardon.com/specifications.aspx?Region=USA&Country=US&Language=ENG&cat=REC&ser=&prod=AVR%20745&sType=C

These are lexicon owners talking about how the RV-5 is a rebadge of a HK.

 

[Seth=L]

http://www.lexicon.com/image_library/RV5_rear_lo.jpg

http://www.harmankardon.com/back.aspx?prod=AVR%20745&cat=REC&sType=C&Region=USA&Country=US&Language=ENG&ImgName=AVR745B.jpg

The lexicon RV5 receiver is a direct rebadge of the HK, remember that the lexicon amps use to be a rebadge of bryston and are now a rebadge of ATI.

You are an idiot. The suggested retail of the Lexicon RV-5 is not much higher than the Harman Kardon AVR-745. The H/K's MSRP is $3,499, and the Lexicon's MSRP is $3,999. The H/K receivers have a 2 year manufacturers warranty and the Lexicon has a 3 year warranty. Is it worth the extra $500, maybe not. If I could verify it's not made in China unlike the H/K maybe. The Lexicon is likely to retain value better.

Now go troll somewhere else.

 

[Seth=L]

http://www.smr-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=461&PN=2

This is from a lexicon forum.

Speculation from the previous RV-5 thread seems correct. The specs appear to match the H/K AVR-745.

http://www.lexicon.com/products/specs.asp?ID=26

http://www.harmankardon.com/specifications.aspx?Region=USA&Country=US&Language=ENG&cat=REC&ser=&prod=AVR%20745&sType=C

These are lexicon owners talking about how the RV-5 is a rebadge of a HK.

FYI: Lexicon and Harman Kardon are both owned by Harman International, they share technology and sometimes gear.

 

[asahikasei]

http://www.smr-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=461&PN=2

This is from a lexicon forum.

Speculation from the previous RV-5 thread seems correct. The specs appear to match the H/K AVR-745.

http://www.lexicon.com/products/specs.asp?ID=26

http://www.harmankardon.com/specific... 745&sType=C

These are lexicon owners talking about how the RV-5 is a rebadge of a HK.

Did you not read what I just posted?

 

[asahikasei]

FYI: Lexicon and Harman Kardon are both owned by Harman International, they share technology and sometimes gear.

Ya we know this which is why a lot of the lexicon products have direct links to HK.

 

[asahikasei]

Ok so we know the obvious about the lexicon RV-5 and the lexicon amps so here is your chance to defend the MC-12.

 

[highfihoney]

Once again how am I trolling? If I did not have pictures then you could state that. Again with the provoking, how am I doing this by posting pictures and links to back me up?

Quit it Tawnos,just stop the innocent act,if you want to troll & thats how you make your living fine but dont dare act as if everybody around you is beneath your feet or your level of intelligence.

You post all gibberish about the techniques used by hi end manufacturers to sell their gear,how about the technique of paid trolling used by corporations nowdays,are we supposed to believe your on a multi year,multi forum,multi username mission, to educate the unwashed uneducated masses about the evi'ls of hi end gear,are we supposed to believe that your personal belief system is so strong that you are ok with being the most hated troll on all the AV forums,all in the name of educating the consumer

I think not,anybody with the perserverance that you have demonstrated over the years is obviously getting paid to troll,whatever mass market corporation you lobby on the behalf of should be put on the hall of shame on fox news.

Your not on any forum as a hobbiest,or to help,your a paid lobbiest plain & simple.

Still no denial about being Tawnos or Neverwinter2.now we know that Bluray_1080p is another alias of yours also.

 

[Seth=L]

Ok so we know the obvious about the lexicon RV-5 and the lexicon amps so here is your chance to defend the MC-12.

Here is your chance to say or do something to get banned.

You clearly have no good response to my statements concerning the H/K AVR-745 vs Lexicon RV-5, why should I waste time debating about another piece of equipment?

 

[asahikasei]

highfihoney, I have defended my position how about you defend yours? We know that the lexicon RV-5 is a rebadge and we know the lexicon amps are a rebadge so now you can defend the MC-12.

how about the technique of paid trolling used by corporations nowdays

This is getting funny, you can not defend or prove me wrong on anything I have said so you jump to a conclusion like this?

 

[highfihoney]

You are an idiot.

Now go troll somewhere else.

Thanks Seth,i laughed so friggen hard when i read this,thanks for the laugh

 

[asahikasei]

Here is your chance to say or do something to get banned.

Are you saying that the RV-5 is not a rebadge? It is well known that the lexicon amps use to have a connection with bryston and now ATI. Please prove any of this wrong and please defend the MC-12, ah but you can't. So why would I be banned for telling the truth?

 

[asahikasei]

Thanks Seth,i laughed so friggen hard when i read this,thanks for the laugh

And he was saying this about the RV-5 not being a rebadged HK but I proved otherwise so his comment and your quote of that comment just makes me look better.

 

[highfihoney]

Neverwinter2 or Tawnos,im all done here,ive made info public about your other usernames & your disruptive posting pattern,now all thats left is to let nature run its course.

Then its banishment time again,till you set up another ISP address.

 

[Seth=L]

And he was saying this about the RV-5 not being a rebadged HK but I proved otherwise so his comment and your quote of that comment just makes me look better.

Good to see you are so full on yourself.

To me, a rebadge would mean another separate manufacturer that is not related to another is selling products made by another manufacturer. NAD did this recently with a Teac product similar to the one in my signature. Since Lexicon and H/K are part of the same company they each have rights to the receiver and do what ever the hell they want. I wouldn't call that a rebadge or even deceitful to the savy consumer.

Yes, Lexicon has sold rebadged Bryston amplifiers in the past, and guess what, they sell for approximately the same.

I don't know much if anything about the Lexicon M12, I don't have an active interest in seperates. My Teac/Boston Acoustics system I paid less than $200 makes me perfectly happy.

 

[asahikasei]

highfihoney, again you have done nothing to state why something in the highend would sound better. Even with exact proof that the RV-5 is a rebadged HK you still say nothing and by doing this it speaks volumes about you.

 

[Seth=L]

Oh, and another thing. You clearly aren't here to help anyone. You are either here because you are paid to be, or you just enjoy trolling because you can't find a better way to spend your time. I see you made exactly 5 posts before starting this one (so you could start one I should say) and you never followed up on those, that wouldn't be entertaining would it?

For the record, I love when trolls come around. Unfortunately I usually miss out on all the fun, but this time I am right in it.

 

[asahikasei]

Since Lexicon and H/K are part of the same company they each have rights to the receiver and do what ever the hell they want. I wouldn't call that a rebadge or even deceitful to the savy consumer.

Ya I guess but how many people would have bought the RV-5 fully knowing it is a HK receiver? Not one!

Yes, Lexicon has sold rebadged Bryston amplifiers in the past, and guess what, they sell for approximately the same.

Again what does that have to do with anything, its not a lexicon and people buy it think that it is a lexicon.

I don't know much if anything about the Lexicon M12, I don't have an active interest in seperates. My Teac/Boston Acoustics system I paid less than $200 makes me perfectly happy.

Then why are you sticking up for the high end and lexicon?