Some help with settings

[Rowdy S13]

Ok well my father in law just picked up a Toshiba 42HL167 LCD for a great price yesterday. Im gonna head over there and help get it all set up (read convince him that now all his 10 year old equipment more or less has to be replaced) and adjust it all. Im looking for some base settings, both service menu and user menu settings. I already know about the green push, so Ill see what it looks like when I get over there. Ive looked on AVS and found some settings, but I like this forums opnion more than anyones

Thanks for the help,
Sean

 

[mtrycrafts]

Ok well my father in law just picked up a Toshiba 42HL167 LCD for a great price yesterday. Im gonna head over there and help get it all set up (read convince him that now all his 10 year old equipment more or less has to be replaced) and adjust it all. Im looking for some base settings, both service menu and user menu settings. I already know about the green push, so Ill see what it looks like when I get over there. Ive looked on AVS and found some settings, but I like this forums opnion more than anyones
Thanks for the help,
Sean

If you have a calibration DVD, use it, otherwise no real setting. I would not recommend color temp other than normal or warm as some others are in the blue temp range
Contrast should be down low and picture less than max setting without a disc, would be a rough guide.

 

[Rowdy S13]

Thanks VERY much for the tips, that does still help alot. When I got my TV, I was able to find some base settings from a ISF tech. I used those as my starting point (they were a HUGE improvment over out of the box) and tweaked those with Avia. Id guess it would more be for service menu settings, that help with any green push It may have (fingers crossed it dosent) and greyscale. I know on my TV the service menus helped my color more then the user menus, but again I went with base settings (An ISF tech posted settings that generally worked well for those sets) and then I had less tweaking to do in the user menus.

Thanks again,
Sean

 

[gus6464]

Before you try any tweaking I would first test to see how bad the green push is in your set. Some sets have a green push so severe that no type of colormaster or service menu tweaking will fix them.

Best way to test is to get your hands on the Superman Returns DVD and put it on the first scene with dying lady and Lex Luthor. That scene is entirely in the dark and shows off if your set is processing the grayscale correctly or if it's completely out of whack. If you see mostly green throughout the entire scene I would take the TV back to the store and exchange for another IMO. If the green is not as bad then you can probably tweak it out through colormaster and service menu.

 

[Thunder18]

I had the 47HL167 and it seems like the main problem with that set is that Toshiba basically left the settings in the service menu at zero. Toshiba did not enter any baseline setting in there at all and there basic stance is that it's the consumers responsibility to tune the set. One member at AVSforum did actually spring for ISF calibration and he said they were able to exorcise the green push from the set, but it took a lot of time going from the service menu, back to the user menu and vice-versa. I would have kept the set too, but after watching POTC 3 several times in a row and then watching it the next day at my parent's house on their 47" Vizio, it was all too apparent to me in what situations the TV was pushing green.
The Toshiba service menu was crazy too. All the settings...it looked like a DOS hex editor. I wasn't sure that I'd be able to get back once I stopped because I don't know the order of hexadecimal so I gave up. However, if you're brave I believe you can get a great picture for that set. I with you luck. I think the guy at AVSforum is Bob Carpenter. He had his ISF calibrated and was very happy afterwards.

Good luck to you.

 

[annunaki]

Service menus should not be accessed except for those competent enough to navigate them and use them correctly.

I had a friend totally screw up his set because he had no idea what he was doing in the service menu. He had to pay someone to fix it. With no manual to navigate the service menu he was doomed from the beginning.

 

[darien87]

Last weekend, I went in to Best Buy to spend my gift cards and ended up paying for the calibration. The service center actually called me the next day to schedule the appointment. It was set for Jan 20th. I was all excited.

Then I get in to work this morning and they've left a message on my voice mail that my appointment had been pushed back to MARCH 30th!!!

NO WAY am I waiting 3 months for a calibration! They told me that there are only 2 guys in the whole state of CA that doe these calibrations for Best Buy. Sorry, but that's not my problem. Hire more people. Guess I'll just go buy a calibration disc and give it a shot myself. Sucks, cuz one of the things I was looking forward to was having them turn down the power consumption on the set.

Lame.

 

[Thunder18]

I'll tell you right now, on my Samsung LCD, every step I turn down the backlight is 10-15 watts less consumption per the kill-a-watt meter. If you take the backlight down to about 6 or so and start calibrating it from there you will bring your power consumption down to less than 150 watts. At backlight level 10 I was pulling nearly 220 watts.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Last weekend, I went in to Best Buy to spend my gift cards and ended up paying for the calibration. The service center actually called me the next day to schedule the appointment. It was set for Jan 20th. I was all excited.

Then I get in to work this morning and they've left a message on my voice mail that my appointment had been pushed back to MARCH 30th!!!

NO WAY am I waiting 3 months for a calibration! They told me that there are only 2 guys in the whole state of CA that doe these calibrations for Best Buy. Sorry, but that's not my problem. Hire more people. Guess I'll just go buy a calibration disc and give it a shot myself. Sucks, cuz one of the things I was looking forward to was having them turn down the power consumption on the set.

Lame.

If the set is worth it, I'd look for an ISF calibrator