panasonic th50pz700u or samsung ln-t5065f

[rcpilot_971]

witch one of these would you get they are the same price panasonic th50pz700u is a plasma and the samsung ln-t5065f is a LCD both 2099

the pictures look good on both the plasma only has a 5000-1 aspect ratio
and the samsung has a 12000-1 aspect ratio does this mean anything ?

also not sure about samsung quality

do the LCDs last longer do plasmas have more problems ?


Thanks Tim

 

[Hi Ho]

I would take the plasma myself. LCD has come a long way but it still can't match plasma picture quality. As far as reliability they're both extremely reliable. I wouldn't buy a Samsung plasma due to the fact that they have been the most troublesome plasmas I know of but their LCDs have been problem free as have Panasonics' plasmas.

When you say "5000-1 aspect ratio" I assume you mean contrast ratio. This measurement is important but going by the manufacturers measurements is very unreliable.

 

[rcpilot_971]

yes contrast ratio






well I went to CC today and looked at these two TVs I had them switch form hd signal to digital off direct tv the picture did not look to good might have been to close in my living room im 10 ft away max so I think I need to look at smaller 46 lcd or a 42 plasma but I think the plasma maybe to small so I was looking at the samsung LNT4671F LCD

also would you get a extended service contract CC want 600.00 for 5 years
CC also has 36 months no interest maks it esay but 600.00 for a service contract is nuts to me fry's is only 289 5 years but no 36 month interest only 12 months



Thanks Tim

 

[Gasman]

Let me calibrate my plasma, and I will be able to give a owners opinion on both.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38527

But to answer quickly, there are many pros and cons.
For cheaper cost and bigger size, plasma is the way to go.
For more energy efficient, LCD is better.

For contrast, plasma is better.
For dynamic contrast, LCD is usually better. (although, 'dynamic' contrast means very little.)
Yes, high dynamic contrast will give the illusion to most buyers, that the LCD is more 3-D with brighter (deeper) blacks, and brighter whites.
Granted 'dynamic' contrast means that the true grayscale is usually killed.

If you like a sharp 3-D look, than you may like LCD.
But true grayscale, from every LCD I know of, can not be had compared to plasma. (should you be worried, probably not, will depend on source material, seating distance, some personal preferences, etc...)

If you have plan to hook it to a gaming console, a computer, or any static image, a LCD is the way to go.

If you watch more standard definition DVDs or TV, than plasma is the way to go (it will give a smoother picture)

If you are concerned with weight, than LCD is better.
(I think I mentioned it, but yes plasma not only runs more power but clearly with more power comes more heat)

There are just to many pros and cons, if you could be more specific on your use, it could be easier to narrow a better educated guesstimate for you.

 

[rcpilot_971]

right now I just have a reg DVD and a sony 36XBR800 wega crt and Im planning on upgrading my direct tv to high def box and dish in a week or so. may get a Play Sation 3 down the road

Im only 10 away from my tv and Im thinking 50 is to big might need to go to a 46 LCD ie samsung LNT4671F because the next smallest plasma is a 42

circut city had the samsung an the panasonic next tto each other and the samsung blacks looked a little darker than the panasoic plasma I had them swithch to a direct tv digital signal and they bith look about the same not a good picture the guy said it was because they were biger tv and father we moved back the better it was

Thanks Tim

 

[Warpdrv]

Make sure that you hook up some standard def material to both... I have been at my buddies house who bought an LCD and SD material was literally not so hot.. On HD it looked great, but as the overwhelming content available today, is SD, I chose Plasma...

Panasonic has great PQ on both, as well as a great reputation.
I would have nothing less then a Plasma in my house, I got a 50" for great room, and a 42" for my bedroom. I will be replacing my 50" with a 65" in the future.

50" at 10ft is perfect... you'll love it..

 

[Gasman]

PM sent, to OP. (Tim)..
Sorry, but typing tonight is to painful, due to disability.
So the pm was quicker (you will see why.)

 

[Warpdrv]

Thanks gasman for that thorough explanation of the comparisons and contrast of the 2 formats... Im glad you have both to give the OP a proper idea of the benefits of either.... they truely both have their benefits...

 

[Gasman]

LOL, yeah not really thorough at all. But does give quick pros & cons.
Also have front projection (DLP) @ 96" (as well a 120" screen).

And if rear projection is a person's choice - as long as light can be somewhat controlled, I would push front projection much quicker over most rear projection sets.
And that is even at small sizes, at 60" to 80"
Granted, with the cost of rear projection dropping like a bomb, you can get a decent set nowadays for next to nothing.
(but, alas, I will admit that with front projection I am biased. currently DLP is still my favorite, but LCD has made leaps in the last 2~3 years.)

Anyhow for OP, that seating distance (as long as you have checked that 10' distance)
Then, for cost and performance, I would also suggest 50" plasma as the best option and 720p.
At 10 feet, you would not need to look at the more expensive 1080p models, as this would be wasted resolution at that distance.
(this of course, will depend on computer hookup, at which point --- if you plan on hooking up a computer I would suggest 1080p at any size you get).

Grrrrr, addicting (meaning on-line chat forums), as I had meant not to type anymore tonight.
5 story fall (granted was in 2002), will have an effect on your wrists concerning pain.

But yeah, I honestly mean it this time. NO more typing for me tonight.....

Will leave with, no matter what TV you get, I highly suggest proper calibration.
At minimal I would suggest picking up DVE (or Avia). (having both, Avia is easier for the novice, but DVE for video is more in depth)

So with that new TV cost, do plan on the cost of some form of calibration.
(this of course, is a purist point of view, as millions of people are highly satisfied without it......)

 

[Gasman]

But yeah, I honestly mean it this time. NO more typing for me tonight.....

OOPS, forgot to mention to OP.
Yeah, unless you are using a specific CC credit card, I would say pass on getting from them.
You WILL ALWAYS, find the TV cheaper at Brandsmart, or at a trusted on-line dealer like Amazon.com

So, before purchasing, check prices at least at your other local stores.
Best Buy and Brandsmart will pricematch any local competitor, and it does not hurt to ask for a lower than advertised price.
This especially works at Brandsmart, and even more so on the more expensive TVs.
Example ad price would be 2,400.00 but the flexible price that they can give would be closer to 2,100.00 to 1,980.00


Spending is the easy part, research is not....
And sadly, I just can't stay away............
(next up is replacement speakers...... But does anyone know the best place for Paradigms? Fort Lauderdale area..)

Also still waiting on AH, to see what their prices will be like, if they compete with the Onkyo, I would have no problems in purchasing the 805 from Audioholics


Brian.

 

[rcpilot_971]

Ok thanks gasman for all the info I may plan to hook up my lap to it so 1080p is what I think I would want I only was going to buy from cc because they had 36 months interest free I dont plan to take three years to pay it off maybe two but man there extended service plan is $600+ for 5 years fry's has the panasonic TH50PZ700U for 2099.00 and cc will price match it but not the extened service plan fry's only has 12 months no interest

would any of you recomend extended sevirce plan for 600 + or any amount


Thanks Tim

 

[Gasman]

The problem with a 5 year service plan, is the actual cost of technology, and how much it drops from year to year.
A 2,000 TV now, in five years you could get for 800.00 so why pay 600.00
However, an extra year (or 2) is not a bad idea. (but I would suggest paying no more than 65.00 per service year.)


The last 3 TVs I got, I only got the extended on 2 of them.
1 for an extra year (on top of original 1 year, so 2 years total)
And the one I bought today, for the heck of it (and cheap cost) I got the 3 year extended, but 3 years cost my 97.00
(note, this was at Brandsmart, and i only got the ext war. because the fellow I buy from, makes more money on the warranty plan compared to the wholesale cost I get the TVs for)

So is 600.00 worth 5 years, absolutly not. (granted this is a IMO, but certainly is the general consensus)

A FYI, I know Sony has the current 18 month no finance or payments, on APR for purchases of 299.00+ I just got another PS3, so I went ahead and went that route.
So you may want to apply for a CC over there.
Link - https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=16189
and https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644530352

And all the current deals - https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentDisplayView?hideHeaderFooter=false&storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&cmsId=STATICS_Special_Offers

PLEASE Note;
By no means am I a Sony supporter, just I have found the PS3's to be of special value, considering the features (for me, mainly the media server).
But, they currently have some instant savings of up to 530.00 on some of their deals.
As well, so you know, Sony does not make their own TV screens (they are actually made by Samsung)

 

[larzman]

A Sony? Puhleeese!

Something to think about when buying a Sony. Those people from Sony decided to install what's known as a "rootkit" in hackers terms, on thousands of unsuspecting pc users' hard drives. Then,after being busted, Sony "fixed" it, making it even harder to remove, virtually impossible to remove without an expert's knowledge.

Sorry, I still have principals, and I will not buy from a company who has such blatant disregard for consumers. And their products are rarely, if ever, the best value, take a look at Samsung's or Panasonics instead.