Want 2 buy 2 main spekers

[mazersteven]

Check the P10 out on www.pliniusaudio.com and give me your opinion on whether the plinius p10 will be able the b&w 803d's with ease.
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The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

 

[Davemcc]

The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

I don't really see the problem. A 50w amp unclipped is within the recommended range. The Plinius falls very near the center of the recommended range. One certainly doesn't need 500w to drive the 803D, which has reasonable sensitivity at 90dB spl (2.83V, 1m). Most program material is only going to need few watts anyway.

The bigger issue I see (an probably not even an issue) is that the 803D is rated at 8Ohm nominal - 3 Ohm minimum. The Plinius is rated to 300w @ 4 Ohm, but I'm sure that it could handle a frequency specific load at 3 Ohm.

I have to say that the Plinius P10/B&W 803D looks like a stellar combination.

 

[WmAx]

The only issue I question is whether the Plinius will be able to drive the 803D's at higher SPL (80 and over) levels, without distortion or mudding up. How accurate, and detailed with music will they be? At low to moderate volumes there shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe someone will be able to answer this.

803D--Recommended Amplifier Power 50W – 500W into 8Ω on unclipped programme

Plinius--200 Watts RMS per channel into 8 Ohms

At 90dB rated sensitivity(assuming this is an accurate rating), a pair of B&W 803D should be able to operate up to 85-86 dB average RMS SPL values with up to 20dB peak values over the 85dB with a true 50 watts per speaker at 2 meters distance with no danger of ever clipping. This does assume some minor room gain. This also assumes the amplifier in question is suited to the impedance/electrical phase shift swings of the 803D.

If high SPL(90dB or over) is required, just throw a 500 watt/channel professional amp at the speakers.

-Chris

 

[mazersteven]

If high SPL(90dB or over) is required, just throw a 500 watt/channel professional amp at the speakers.

-Chris

So are you saying that these speakers could suffer from using that amp at higher volume levels?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The bigger issue I see (an probably not even an issue) is that the 803D is rated at 8Ohm nominal - 3 Ohm minimum. The Plinius is rated to 300w @ 4 Ohm, but I'm sure that it could handle a frequency specific load at 3 Ohm.

My Def Tech BP7000SC has a 2.7 ohms minimum, CLR3000 has a 2.1 ohms mininum, & SM450 has a 3.2 ohms minimum. My Acurus amps are 300w @ 4 ohms, and have absolutely no problem driving them. I'm sure the Plinius will drive those B&W 803Ds perfectly.

 

[WmAx]

So are you saying that these speakers could suffer from using that amp at higher volume levels?

Well, of course, if you drive the 50 watt amp into continuous clipping by using the speakers at 90dB average SPL, you very well cound end up feeding the tweeters far too much power (consider the harmonics of the lower frequency clipped waveform spreading into the treble band) - causing possible damage to the tweeters.

-Chris

 

[PENG]

If you can get the 803D for your self imposed spending limit of $7K, and you like neutral sound, go for it. Your P10 is rated 300WPC into 4 ohms and 40A per channel short duration peak. My guess is that it will output close to 400WPC into 3 ohms. Even if the 803D dips down to 3 ohms at low bass frequencies (I would say unlikely) the P10 will still have enough power on hand to control the speakers. That being said, you still need to be careful in the beginning, to make sure you don't push the amp anywhere near its clipping point or you risk burning out the diamond tweeter.

The Paradigm S8 is also a good choice but I think the 803S/803D are of higher quality overall.