Infinity Floorstanders for under $225...

[Gaigebacca]

can it be done.. and I am talking for a pair... not apiece... I saw a set of Primus 250's on craigslist for 125... but haven't found any professional reviews on them yet...

 

[Gaigebacca]

dang it... I just realized I posted in the wrong forum for this... can any Mod move this to the loudspeaker forum?

 

[Seth=L]

They are very good speakers at that price. WmAx, a member of this forum, has modified his Primus 150s and says they can flat out wipe to floor with high end speaker systems way over $1000 stock. Just know that the Primus stock speakers aren't going to compete with speakers in the $1000 plus bracket, but they have great potential.

 

[jagxtype]

i paid $175 for.....get this....your not going to beleive me...a PAIR of Primus 250's brand new in box from ultimate electronics one year ago to this day. they were clearing out an overstock for the new Primus 252's

 

[jagxtype]

They are very good speakers at that price. WmAx, a member of this forum, has modified his Primus 250s and says they can flat out wipe to floor with high end speaker systems way over $1000 stock. Just know that the Primus stock speakers aren't going to compete with speakers in the $1000 plus bracket, but they have great potential.

Fixed for ya

 

[avaserfi]

Actually, Chris has modified a pair of Primus 160s for use with stereo subwoofers. Quality wise they match/exceed the B&W 802D (MSRP $12,000) speakers for near field listening.

As far as the 250s go he has made recommendations for others to make modifications to theirs on this forum.

At $125 a pair of Primus 250s with modifications would likely make a superb speaker.

 

[jagxtype]

Actually, Chris has modified a pair of Primus 160s for use with stereo subwoofers. Quality wise they match/exceed the B&W 802D (MSRP $12,000) speakers for near field listening.

As far as the 250s go he has made recommendations for others to make modifications to theirs on this forum.

At $125 a pair of Primus 250s with modifications would likely make a superb speaker.

I stand corrected. I mistakenly recalled another post i have read.

 

[Seth=L]

Fixed for ya

I meant to say 160s. The same woofers and tweeters are used in the 250s though.

 

[mazersteven]

Actually, Chris has modified a pair of Primus 160s for use with stereo subwoofers. Quality wise they match/exceed the B&W 802D (MSRP $12,000) speakers for near field listening.

hmmmmmmmmmm ?

 

[jagxtype]

expand the idea of use with stereo subwoofer. Does that mean that you have a subwoofer located within proximity of each of the 160? If so, that is still amazing at any rate. But why stereo subs to make it comparable. Do the B&W's have that much range? Or is it just the sonic image that is trying to be maintained?

 

[Gasman]

hmmmmmmmmmm ?

My guess is these http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/1205bw/
are overpriced by $10,000.00
Heck, for a pair of ~800.00 subs (1600.00) and some Infinity's for ~150.00
And pay a carpenter for the mod at 100.00 an hour (x ~3 hours), you still would be better off than paying $12,000.00 for those B&W's.

Specially with a small room, and nearfield listening.

 

[jagxtype]

If you want to put it in terms of total cost. Just think, your going to need massive power with massive processing to power those bad boys too. Thats another couple thousand more than a good receiver which is plenty ample to push the 250's. The B&W's are way too much. Your rougly in the hole 15,000 or more when all is said and done when compared to the relative primus set up.

 

[Gasman]

And why is that jag?
They are fairly sensitive speakers (@90db), assuming ~150 RMS should be plenty for them????
And what does processing have to do with it, if you are thinking DSP?
Also this was talking about nearfield.

 

[Sheep]

hmmmmmmmmmm ?

Welcome to WmAx, the guy that KNOWS speakers. He's modifications are nothing short of insane. His new speakers are going to weigh roughly 500lbs EACH.

Jags, Processing and power are not requirements for good sound. A pair of Behringer A500s would drive 802Ds fine with a receiver feeding it.

SheepStar

 

[jagxtype]

Welcome to WmAx, the guy that KNOWS speakers. He's modifications are nothing short of insane. His new speakers are going to weigh roughly 500lbs EACH.

Jags, Processing and power are not requirements for good sound. A pair of Behringer A500s would drive 802Ds fine with a receiver feeding it.

SheepStar

No, processing as in preamp....sorry. And why would someone drive a 12000 dollar speaker with anyting but the best is what i am kinda getting at. And it is going to need to have more power than the primus anyhow considering the specs. I am not saying i know anything about these speakers, just gathering from what i do know. If what is formerly said of the primus vs. B&W, then wouldnt there be a power differential between the two models? I am just saying, it will take stand alone amps and preamps which tend to be costly compared to the primus which can be driven nicely by just about any run of the mill amplifiers.

 

[jagxtype]

And why is that jag?
They are fairly sensitive speakers (@90db), assuming ~150 RMS should be plenty for them????
And what does processing have to do with it, if you are thinking DSP?
Also this was talking about nearfield.

I understand the nearfield comment, but refer to my above post.

 

[Sheep]

No, processing as in preamp....sorry. And why would someone drive a 12000 dollar speaker with anyting but the best is what i am kinda getting at. And it is going to need to have more power than the primus anyhow considering the specs. I am not saying i know anything about these speakers, just gathering from what i do know. If what is formerly said of the primus vs. B&W, then wouldnt there be a power differential between the two models? I am just saying, it will take stand alone amps and preamps which tend to be costly compared to the primus which can be driven nicely by just about any run of the mill amplifiers.

The best is the A500 for the price and wattage. The best isn't expensive, you really need to figure that out before you lose a crap load of money.

SheepStar

 

[Gasman]

And why would someone drive a 12000 dollar speaker with anyting but the best

That's what I was wondering.
Has Chris personally owned the $12K B&W's? Or is this third hand party information?
Why would someone buy the B&W's, yet have personally compared them to some 125.00 speakers?

Something seems amiss.

I just don't buy it. (get it, LOL, buy it......)

 

[jagxtype]

The best is the A500 for the price and wattage. The best isn't expensive, you really need to figure that out before you lose a crap load of money.

SheepStar

Yeah.. i never claimed to be one to think the best were the most expensive, it just tends to have a correlated relation. I do not splurge on expensive stuff b/c i think it will sound better. I find out what i want, research it heavily, and make an informed purchase on a good deal. I dont buy off the internet, unless i have heard in person. The HK that i just purchased is the first i have bought off the internet.

examples. (taxes included)
815K receiver-$220 new
Primus 250's- $175 new for pair
Primus 150's- $80 New for pair
Polk CSM- $60 New
Toshiba DVD- $50 new
HK 635- $475 shipped to my door Refurb'd

To me, $12,000 for a pair of speakers is rediculous. Much better can be had for that price comprimise. $12,000 and i could build a system that "I" like and still have 8,000 in my pockets.

As you can see, i will not loose a crap load of money for i see it better spent elsewhere in ways which i will see return other than self-satisfaction.

 

[Sheep]

Yeah.. i never claimed to be one to think the best were the most expensive, it just tends to have a correlated relation. I do not splurge on expensive stuff b/c i think it will sound better. I find out what i want, research it heavily, and make an informed purchase on a good deal. I dont buy off the internet, unless i have heard in person. The HK that i just purchased is the first i have bought off the internet.

examples. (taxes included)
815K receiver-$220 new
Primus 250's- $175 new for pair
Primus 150's- $80 New for pair
Polk CSM- $60 New
Toshiba DVD- $50 new
HK 635- $475 shipped to my door Refurb'd

To me, $12,000 for a pair of speakers is rediculous. Much better can be had for that price comprimise. $12,000 and i could build a system that "I" like and still have 8,000 in my pockets.

As you can see, i will not loose a crap load of money for i see it better spent elsewhere in ways which i will see return other than self-satisfaction.

I don't think you really understand speaker design and philosophy. Those speakers have ZERO resonance.

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This is the Matrix Bracing (uh) that they use inside. Very few retails speakers have resonance that measures as well as these do, including speakers that retail for more then double the price.

I'm willing to bet that 4000 dollar sound system you would buy will not sound nearly as good.

SheepStar