UFObuster Audioholic Jan 22, 2006 102 0 0 Wilmington, NC Oct 19, 2007 #1 Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out.
Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out.
avaserfi Audioholic Ninja Mar 4, 2007 3,295 0 113 40 College Station, TX Oct 19, 2007 #2 UFObuster said: Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out. Click to expand... Pretty sure this is the thread on the article you are talking about. It has a link to the article. Hope this helps . http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35803&highlight=hires Reactions: UFObuster
UFObuster said: Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out. Click to expand... Pretty sure this is the thread on the article you are talking about. It has a link to the article. Hope this helps . http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35803&highlight=hires
Adam Audioholic Jedi Jul 5, 2006 32,066 0 113 Tucson, Arizona Oct 19, 2007 #3 avaserfi said: Pretty sure this is the thread on the article you are talking about. It has a link to the article. Hope this helps . http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35803&highlight=hires Click to expand... Good find, Andrew. The link to the article located in the first post in that thread doesn't work for me. Were you able to get the article PDF by clicking that link?
avaserfi said: Pretty sure this is the thread on the article you are talking about. It has a link to the article. Hope this helps . http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35803&highlight=hires Click to expand... Good find, Andrew. The link to the article located in the first post in that thread doesn't work for me. Were you able to get the article PDF by clicking that link?
UFObuster Audioholic Jan 22, 2006 102 0 0 Wilmington, NC Oct 19, 2007 #4 Thanks for the link...I really wanted to read the whole thing.
avaserfi Audioholic Ninja Mar 4, 2007 3,295 0 113 40 College Station, TX Oct 19, 2007 #5 Adam said: Good find, Andrew. The link to the article located in the first post in that thread doesn't work for me. Were you able to get the article PDF by clicking that link? Click to expand... Well, I do have the article on my computer which I downloaded from that link quiet a while ago. Since I downloaded it from AES directly I doubt there would be a problem with me sending it to someone. So if anyone wants a copy send me a PM with your email address and I will shoot it to your right away.
Adam said: Good find, Andrew. The link to the article located in the first post in that thread doesn't work for me. Were you able to get the article PDF by clicking that link? Click to expand... Well, I do have the article on my computer which I downloaded from that link quiet a while ago. Since I downloaded it from AES directly I doubt there would be a problem with me sending it to someone. So if anyone wants a copy send me a PM with your email address and I will shoot it to your right away.
mtrycrafts Seriously, I have no life. Aug 19, 2004 23,548 0 113 Oct 19, 2007 #6 UFObuster said: Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out. Click to expand... Try this link at Boston Audio Society. After all, Meyer is the principal author of that article: http://www.bostonaudiosociety.org/explanation.htm By the way, don't forget that the Hi-def audio formats are multi channel, a huge advantage over 2 ch. audio and so far, it has not succumbed to the compression rush. I also like the last line in the comments in your link, audio/aural hallucinations.
UFObuster said: Here is an eye-opener from the Klipsch forum. I need a link to the full article...anybody have one? http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/storage/4/974600/CDQuality.AES.png It's from the AES Journal (this month). Will this info rain on your parade if you're really into the hi-def audio formats? I've always thought a lot of my CDs still sound pretty good! Check it out. Click to expand... Try this link at Boston Audio Society. After all, Meyer is the principal author of that article: http://www.bostonaudiosociety.org/explanation.htm By the way, don't forget that the Hi-def audio formats are multi channel, a huge advantage over 2 ch. audio and so far, it has not succumbed to the compression rush. I also like the last line in the comments in your link, audio/aural hallucinations.
J Joe Schmoe Audioholic Ninja Dec 19, 2006 3,051 0 0 Oct 29, 2007 #7 No surprises. I have known for years that the playback capabilities of CDs surpass the hearing abilities of the human ear, rendering "better" formats rather pointless. (In fact, cheap CDPs are already beyond that threshold, so there is no point in buying a more expensive one.)
No surprises. I have known for years that the playback capabilities of CDs surpass the hearing abilities of the human ear, rendering "better" formats rather pointless. (In fact, cheap CDPs are already beyond that threshold, so there is no point in buying a more expensive one.)
mtrycrafts Seriously, I have no life. Aug 19, 2004 23,548 0 113 Oct 29, 2007 #8 Joe Schmoe said: (In fact, cheap CDPs are already beyond that threshold, so there is no point in buying a more expensive one.) Click to expand... Unless you want multi channel music
Joe Schmoe said: (In fact, cheap CDPs are already beyond that threshold, so there is no point in buying a more expensive one.) Click to expand... Unless you want multi channel music
davidtwotrees Audioholic General Oct 10, 2006 1,156 0 63 65 Bloomingdale, IL Oct 29, 2007 #9 Authors State That Hires Multi Is Much Better! Sighs......we went through all this in the thread listed. The author's end the whole article by saying there was NO DOUBT THAT MULTI CHANNEL HI RES FORMATS SOUNDED BETTER THAN ANYTHING TWO CHANNEL. NO DOUBT! ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, one trend became obvious very quickly and held up throughout our testing: virtually all of the SACD and DVD-A recordings sounded better than most CDs— sometimes much better. "
Authors State That Hires Multi Is Much Better! Sighs......we went through all this in the thread listed. The author's end the whole article by saying there was NO DOUBT THAT MULTI CHANNEL HI RES FORMATS SOUNDED BETTER THAN ANYTHING TWO CHANNEL. NO DOUBT! ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, one trend became obvious very quickly and held up throughout our testing: virtually all of the SACD and DVD-A recordings sounded better than most CDs— sometimes much better. "
J Joe Schmoe Audioholic Ninja Dec 19, 2006 3,051 0 0 Oct 30, 2007 #10 mtrycrafts said: Unless you want multi channel music Click to expand... I was, of course, referring to sound quality. Multichannel is a separate issue, and yes it requires a different format. (I love multichannel for movies, but prefer stereo for music.)
mtrycrafts said: Unless you want multi channel music Click to expand... I was, of course, referring to sound quality. Multichannel is a separate issue, and yes it requires a different format. (I love multichannel for movies, but prefer stereo for music.)
3db Audioholic Slumlord Sep 7, 2002 16,486 0 113 65 Ottawa Canada Oct 31, 2007 #11 David.. I remember that thread davidtwotrees said: Sighs......we went through all this in the thread listed. The author's end the whole article by saying there was NO DOUBT THAT MULTI CHANNEL HI RES FORMATS SOUNDED BETTER THAN ANYTHING TWO CHANNEL. NO DOUBT! ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, one trend became obvious very quickly and held up throughout our testing: virtually all of the SACD and DVD-A recordings sounded better than most CDs— sometimes much better. " Click to expand... and i remember reading that line and becommong confused because it didn't say explicitly that mulitchannel....one trend became obvious... So your take is that they implicitly implied multichannel
David.. I remember that thread davidtwotrees said: Sighs......we went through all this in the thread listed. The author's end the whole article by saying there was NO DOUBT THAT MULTI CHANNEL HI RES FORMATS SOUNDED BETTER THAN ANYTHING TWO CHANNEL. NO DOUBT! ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, one trend became obvious very quickly and held up throughout our testing: virtually all of the SACD and DVD-A recordings sounded better than most CDs— sometimes much better. " Click to expand... and i remember reading that line and becommong confused because it didn't say explicitly that mulitchannel....one trend became obvious... So your take is that they implicitly implied multichannel
mtrycrafts Seriously, I have no life. Aug 19, 2004 23,548 0 113 Oct 31, 2007 #12 3db said: and i remember reading that line and becommong confused because it didn't say explicitly that mulitchannel....one trend became obvious... So your take is that they implicitly implied multichannel Click to expand... Yes, it can be confusing but, their first part ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, is clear, that high resolution is not needed for audio reproduction, at least in the consumer marketplace, it cannot be differentiated from RedBook standard, other characteristics do make a difference, be it multi channel or even high quality of mastering that can be accomplished with a CD but is now ignored for the volume race and compression but not ignored in hi-rez DVDs. That is why they sound better.
3db said: and i remember reading that line and becommong confused because it didn't say explicitly that mulitchannel....one trend became obvious... So your take is that they implicitly implied multichannel Click to expand... Yes, it can be confusing but, their first part ""Though our tests failed to substantiate the claimed advantages of high-resolution encoding for two-channel audio, is clear, that high resolution is not needed for audio reproduction, at least in the consumer marketplace, it cannot be differentiated from RedBook standard, other characteristics do make a difference, be it multi channel or even high quality of mastering that can be accomplished with a CD but is now ignored for the volume race and compression but not ignored in hi-rez DVDs. That is why they sound better.
