This is where Global Warming is headed

[Buckeye_Nut]

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2006-09-20-global-warming-lawsuit_x.htm
LOS ANGELES — California's kook attorney general filed a public-nuisance lawsuit Wednesday against the six biggest-selling automakers, alleging their products spew dangerous greenhouse gases and foster global warming.The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Oakland, seeks unspecified compensation for the "billions of dollars in damages" from global warming caused by cars.

Oh yes.... this is where the kook GW alarmist agenda is headed, and it's only a matter of time before these ignorant lawsuits are taken seriously. Pretty soon, we'll be seeing federal Global Warming legislation being pushed down our throats at an ever-increasing pace.

More leftist government control over everything, anyone??

 

[Tomorrow]

LOL, Buckeye_Nut....I think you're operating under the notion that liberals' arms are gonna get tired slingin' insults and other non-mentionables at you...that you can wear 'em out.

But naw, they're tenacious creatures. Keep your helmet on.

 

[stratman]

Wallonia, Belgium you must pay a BBQ tax or face a fine. 20 Euros for a grilling session, they plan to monitor this with helicopters that feature thermal sensors. Now, how much CO2 is the helicopter spewing trying to monitor the BBQs vesrsus a BBQ cooking? How much will it really cost you to grill? Oh the humanity!!

At todays exchange rate 20 Euros = 27.74 dollars evrytime you light up your BBQ! OUCH! That's a lot of BUBBA BURGERS!

 

[jonnythan]

Most important sentence:


"These kinds of suits are only going to multiply until we have an effective national legislation that curbs global warming."

The goal here is to raise awareness and pressure the federal government to take a stand on carbon emissions.

 

[stratman]

As long as I don't have to pay to grill!

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Wallonia, Belgium you must pay a BBQ tax or face a fine. 20 Euros for a grilling session, they plan to monitor this with helicopters that feature thermal sensors. Now, how much CO2 is the helicopter spewing trying to monitor the BBQs vesrsus a BBQ cooking? How much will it really cost you to grill? Oh the humanity!!

LOL. This is like putting a "prevent air pollution" bumper sticker on a Hummer.
(Besides, I thought everyone knew that the primary cause of global warming is bovine flatulence.)

 

[jonnythan]

(Besides, I thought everyone knew that the primary cause of global warming is bovine flatulence.)

Bovine flatulence is carbon neutral

In fact, cows in general are carbon neutral. All of their carbon emissions come from the carbon in the plant matter they eat

 

[stratman]

So.....we must change the cow's diet?

 

[Sheep]

What they should do, it tax every ******* that decides to buy a big truck, SUV or sports car. If you truck isn't dirty and full of tools... you don't need one. If your SUV isn't driving 800 kids to school, you don't need one. If you want a sports car, buy an Ariel Atom.

SheepStar

 

[jonnythan]

What they should do, it tax every ******* that decides to buy a big truck, SUV or sports car. If you truck isn't dirty and full of tools... you don't need one. If your SUV isn't driving 800 kids to school, you don't need one.

So how do they separate the people who are buying a truck to haul tools from the people who are buying trucks because they look macho, and tax accordingly?

Or should they just charge an extra $2000 on every single truck sold, **** the workers who need them?

 

[Joe Schmoe]

What they should do, it tax every ******* that decides to buy a big truck, SUV or sports car. If you truck isn't dirty and full of tools... you don't need one. If your SUV isn't driving 800 kids to school, you don't need one. If you want a sports car, buy an Ariel Atom.

SheepStar

The problem with trying to switch to small, fuel-efficient cars is that everybody has to do it. Where I live (redneck central), I would not consider a tiny car because of all the maniacs in their big trucks and SUVs. To them, a Mini looks exactly like a speed bump.

 

[stratman]

I was watching ECO-Tech on Discovery (I think) the other day, it was about alternative fuels, they're beginning to ramp up production on ethanol based fuel made not from corn, but tree cuttings and garbage. IMO this is the wave of the future, not hydrogen, not electric. There's a plant right now in Louisiana capable of producing 50 million gallons a year, it's enough for a small town. I'm not into conspiracies, but I have a feeling that the powers that be are letting big oil get into this first through proxy investments so when a complete change over is done big oil is still a viable entity and in controll.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

I'm not into conspiracies, but I have a feeling that the powers that be are letting big oil get into this first through proxy investments so when a complete change over is done big oil is still a viable entity and in controll.

If the powers that be cared about the environment at all, we would have been using something like that decades ago. Of course, only money matters.

 

[stratman]

If Brazil can do it so can we. There's no excuse.

 

[darien87]

What they should do, it tax every ******* that decides to buy a big truck, SUV or sports car. If you truck isn't dirty and full of tools... you don't need one. If your SUV isn't driving 800 kids to school, you don't need one. If you want a sports car, buy an Ariel Atom.

SheepStar

That sounds a little strange coming from a guy who's favorite thing to do is mod his Civic.

 

[Buckeye_Nut]

And to think......

It was only 30 years ago that the same Kook establishment was proposing the covering of our poles in black. Ya know..... so the Earth may absorb heat to counter the pollution induced man-made ice age. The same idiots waved their arms frantically predicting how billions & billions will die because of man-made cooling. They were calling for more government regulation of the private sector & higher taxes because human activity was to blamed for the cooling trend (and approaching ice age)...HeHeHe.

On one hand you have the kook tree-huggers who fantasize about sending technology back to the stone age so they may experience a cleaner mother earth......on the other hand....you've got leftists governments who long for bigger government and more extensive control over everything. Hey...what a perfect opportunity to advance our "Government Control" agenda!!!!

One thing is certain...... when the next cooling trend becomes reality, the same kook establishment will be calling for more government intervention, higher taxes, they'll predict billions will die, and it will be all mans fault.

 

[stratman]

I was in the 6th grade and I remember the hysteria over the global ice age that was approaching. I remember some predictions by scientists that scared the living daylights out of me. By 1980 three fourths of the world was going to be covered in ice, mass starvation, 2/3 of the world's population was going to be gone by the late 90s, man if he survived at all, would be reduced to living underground and scrounging for food, tribal life would be the norm untill the ice age would melt in 20,000 years. Here I am and I still remember it clearly as if it was yesterday. Not that I have anything against tribal life, after all.................

 

[Tomorrow]

I was watching ECO-Tech on Discovery (I think) the other day, it was about alternative fuels, they're beginning to ramp up production on ethanol based fuel made not from corn, but tree cuttings and garbage. IMO this is the wave of the future, not hydrogen, not electric. There's a plant right now in Louisiana capable of producing 50 million gallons a year, it's enough for a small town. I'm not into conspiracies, but I have a feeling that the powers that be are letting big oil get into this first through proxy investments so when a complete change over is done big oil is still a viable entity and in controll.

Does this mean there is more garbage in Louisiana?

 

[stratman]

Does this mean there is more garbage in Louisiana?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I won't go near that one! Maybe Buck will!

 

[The Dukester]

I was watching ECO-Tech on Discovery (I think) the other day, it was about alternative fuels, they're beginning to ramp up production on ethanol based fuel made not from corn, but tree cuttings and garbage.

The problem with ethanol fuels is that they are not compatable with 95% of today's cars. Any FlexFuel vehicle is OK, but not others. For one, the alcohol attracts moisture, which rusts the fuel lines, etc. The problem is compounded with carbureted cars...like my old classics. With fi cars that have sealed fuel systems, you have less problems with rust but get into requiring different injectors sizes, PCM calibrations, and material composition of the tanks, lines and pumps (where the alcohol eats away at the rubber lines, O-rings, etc).
Alcohol or Ethanol have a much lower stoichiotometry, which is one reason cars runing on E85 get less mpg than on gas. This is why the PCM would have to have a different setup than factory gas setups.

I'm all for alternative fuels, but give me something I can run in the cars I have now.