7.1 HD Audio Processing--WHERE??

[MikeSp]

Even though there are several new receivers on the market that claim to have 7.1 DD True HD and DTS HD Master decoding capabilities (IF I correctly read their specs), I have not seen anything from the specs on Blu-ray or HD-DVD players in which the decoding of future 7.1 HD sound will be done anywhere but inside the players themselves or allowed by external processors.

Can anyone clear this up -- WILL HD 7.1 decoding be allowed outside the high definition DVD players?

Mike

 

[no. 5]

Can anyone clear this up -- WILL HD 7.1 decoding be allowed outside the high definition DVD players?

If I'm not mistaken, the broad answer is no.

 

[MDS]

If I'm not mistaken, the broad answer is no.

True...but I'd hedge my bets and say maybe. Having onboard decoders for the new lossless formats from Dolby and DTS in a receiver, at the moment, is more marketing than useful. As of right now, they cannot be used because no player will send the bitstream...but in the future who knows?

The way this stuff tends to work though, by the time that players are enabled to send the bitstream so the receiver can decode it, the receiver itself will be out of date and you'll be looking for a new one anyway. It's why I at least don't put much stock in receivers that have support for a format that it cannot use anyway.

 

[dobyblue]

Most of the new Blu-ray players announced at CEDIA and IFA over the last week will allow you to output the audio in bitstream format to allow processing to be done by the receiver.
The Loewe, Daewoo, Pioneer, Sharp, Denon and Sony new players to come out will all have onboard TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding but will allow also the user to output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby Digital Plus in bitstream format.
This functionality of the chips was not available in the models that have been released to date, but is in the new models that will be released throughout Q4/07 and Q1/08 and from that point forwards.
There is no additional manufactuing costs to the CE to use a different chip according to Keith Jack from Sigma.

So the answer is.....yes if you don't mind waiting a few more months.

 

[MikeSp]

Most of the new Blu-ray players announced at CEDIA and IFA over the last week will allow you to output the audio in bitstream format to allow processing to be done by the receiver.
The Loewe, Daewoo, Pioneer, Sharp, Denon and Sony new players to come out will all have onboard TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding but will allow also the user to output Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD, DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby Digital Plus in bitstream format.
This functionality of the chips was not available in the models that have been released to date, but is in the new models that will be released throughout Q4/07 and Q1/08 and from that point forwards.
There is no additional manufactuing costs to the CE to use a different chip according to Keith Jack from Sigma.

So the answer is.....yes if you don't mind waiting a few more months.

That was GOOD GNUS

Mike

 

[Gasman]

As Doby said, yes, but you will have to wait.
However, he forgot to mention Samsung on that list.
So that being said, the new Dual Format Samsung, has 7.1 analog outs, and from my understanding will have 7.1 pass through over HDMI.
(as per firmware)
Quick review of the Samsung BD-UP5000
can be found here - http://hdguru.com/?p=184
And is also being talked about here - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908610

/ Forgot to mention, this is in the wrong area.
It should have been posted somewhere other than Movie threads.
Example, cd/dvd & misc hardware, or general AV discussion.

 

[dobyblue]

As Doby said, yes, but you will have to wait.
However, he forgot to mention Samsung on that list.
So that being said, the new Dual Format Samsung, has 7.1 analog outs, and from my understanding will have 7.1 pass through over HDMI.
(as per firmware)
Quick review of the Samsung BD-UP5000
can be found here - http://hdguru.com/?p=184
And is also being talked about here - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=908610

So far though dual format players only have 3% of the market and with the price tag still remaining so high, that doesn't look to change anytime soon.

You can get a standalone HD DVD and Blu-ray player for about $300 less combined that either the LG or Samsung dual format players.

Currently the BD-P1400 from Samsung and the Sharp BD-HP20U both allow for decoding of DTS-Master Audio and TrueHD in your receiver as they both can send via bitstream.

In case you don't want to wait for one of the other players the BD-P1400 is $418 on Amazon and the Sharp is $399 at Park Ave.

http://www.parkaveelectronics.com/product.asp?itemid=SHABDHP20U&l=Froogle