Plate?

[speakerman39]

I have been looking at some of the plate amp offerings. This includes the offerings at PE, Oaudio, Keiga, Rythmik, and Elemental Designs. I noticed that some are "Bash" amps and others are class "G" . Still yet, some have a PEQ built in and others do not. Elemental has one that has 1300 watts RMS but no PEQ. PE has one rated at 1024 watts RMS at 4ohms with a PEQ. Therefore, my question is what should I really be looking for and how much power is really needed??? My sub will be in a small sealed enclosure with lots of articulate, tight, punchy, well-controlled bass in the 30 Hz -90 Hz range. I have not made any decisions just yet but have looked at many of the diy kits out there. Thus, I have narrowed it down to the Dayton kits OR the Rythmik if I choose to go that route. However, the Dayton HF drivers have really got me thinking about going a different route. I do NOT need a sub to play any lower than 30 Hz as my SVS PB12-NSD does that superbly. My goal is to ascertain more musicality and that is why I prefer a sealed enclosure. Lastly, are there any other plate amps I need to look at besides those mentioned above? Thank you for your time. Please feel free to share your thoughts.

 

[j_garcia]

That is a tough one. I think you need to pick the overall design first, if it isn't a kit. Driver impedance obviously will be a factor, and dual or single voice coil could influence the amp choice as well. For a sealed design, I would err on the side of too much power, since a sealed design will require more power to achieve the same type of output a vented one has with less power (depending on design).

 

[speakerman39]

That is a tough one. I think you need to pick the overall design first, if it isn't a kit. Driver impedance obviously will be a factor, and dual or single voice coil could influence the amp choice as well. For a sealed design, I would err on the side of too much power, since a sealed design will require more power to achieve the same type of output a vented one has with less power (depending on design).

Very good point John. I will use a 4ohm driver in a small sealed enclosure. There are several kits from which to choose from BUT I am looking into putting together my own design. That is, maybe use a Dayton HF driver in a small sealed enclosure. Not sure if I want the 10" or the 12" yet. The 10" Dayton kit imho needs a better amp than the 240 watt that comes with it. Maybe use a 10" Titanic driver with a 500 watt Dayton amp or one of the Bash amps. The Oaudio amps also look to be good performers. Just want some input before I make my decision. I am leaning more towards the 12" Direct Sealed Servo Rythmik kit BUT want to cover all my bases so to speak. Thanks for your input.

 

[WmAx]

Why limit yourself to plate amplifiers? A stand alone ampllfier is more flexible, as well, you are less likely to have potential noise/hum issues by sending a high level signal(amplified) to the subwoofers at distant locations as compared to an unbalanced line level signal.

Also, if you go with a stand alone as an option, you can choose a Behringer EP2500. You will not likely beat the quality/price of a Behringer EP2500, or even come close to matching this quality/price combo from another company. Full band, extreme high power, very high quality build, very low distortion, very low noise and very low price.

-Chris

 

[Swerd]

My sub will be in a small sealed enclosure with lots of articulate, tight, punchy, well-controlled bass in the 30-90 Hz range. I have not made any decisions just yet but have looked at many of the diy kits out there. Thus, I have narrowed it down to the Dayton kits OR the Rythmik if I choose to go that route. However, the Dayton HF drivers have really got me thinking about going a different route. I do NOT need a sub to play any lower than 30 Hz as my SVS PB12-NSD does that superbly. My goal is to ascertain more musicality and that is why I prefer a sealed enclosure.

Instead of the Titanic driver, the Parts Express reference series drivers have lower distortion and is said to be more "musical" than the Titanic drivers.

Use the PE 12" RS HF driver, in a 2.0 ft³ sealed cabinet, with their HPSA 500 watt plate amp. This amp is now on sale for $60 off. If you want plans for a 2 ft³ cabinet for these parts, PM me with your email address.

 

[speakerman39]

Why limit yourself to plate amplifiers? A stand alone ampllfier is more flexible, as well, you are less likely to have potential noise/hum issues by sending a high level signal(amplified) to the subwoofers at distant locations as compared to an unbalanced line level signal.

Also, if you go with a stand alone as an option, you can choose a Behringer EP2500. You will not likely beat the quality/price of a Behringer EP2500, or even come close to matching this quality/price combo from another company. Full band, extreme high power, very high quality build, very low distortion, very low noise and very low price.

-Chris

Hi Chris how is it going? I am not limiting myself just NOT interested in a stand alone unit at this time. Besides, the Behringer is too much power for my set-up. Sure dont want to get in any trouble with my neighbors. I much rather have a plate amp anyways. I do, however, appreciate your input.

 

[speakerman39]

Instead of the Titanic driver, the Parts Express reference series drivers have lower distortion and is said to be more "musical" than the Titanic drivers.

Use the PE 12" RS HF driver, in a 2.0 ft³ sealed cabinet, with their HPSA 500 watt plate amp. This amp is now on sale for $60 off. If you want plans for a 2 ft³ cabinet for these parts, PM me with your email address.

I take it that you have already have this sub yourself-am I right? Or, perhaps you know someone whom does and as such have heard it??? I will be more than happy to send you a pm for the box plans. Your input is much appreciated here.

 

[speakerman39]

Hey Swerd just checked your profile and it appears you do own the 12" HF sub in a 2 ft^3 enclosure. Also, you have a kool avatar.

 

[speakerman39]

Yo Swerd I am still awaiting those plans.....????? Maybe you are busy given that it is a holiday weekend and all. Anyways, when you find the time please send me those plans to phildog_38@yahoo.com. Also, would appreciate some of your impressions regarding the Dayton 12" HF driver in terms of musicality. More specifically, tightness, punchiness, articulation, and etc. Hope to hear from you soon.

 

[Swerd]

You have mail. After you read over the plans, let me know if you have any questions.

I think you'll love this subwoofer .

 

[speakerman39]

You have mail. After you read over the plans, let me know if you have any questions.

I think you'll love this subwoofer .

Just wanted to let you know that I really do appreciate those plans. It has helped a bunch. I have looked the plans over for the moment but may have some questions later on. If I do I will be sure to get back in touch with you. The pics aslo were a nice touch. Looks like you did a fantastic job. Just wished I had your talent. Care to post some pics of your set-up? Have a great evening.