Are the only Subs that can do 16hz super huge?

[annunaki]

Did you listen to your friend's sub with music or movies? If movies, which ones? Was it the sheer output that impressed you or how deep the system was capable of playing? Those are the questions that need to be asked. It will help focus on what you are really after and what compromises can be made. Saying you need a sub capable of 16hz does not really narrow down exactly what you are after. I would venture to guess that it is the low end extension, but I could be wrong.

As for the DIY route, I would do a pair of JL Audio 12W6v2's (as they can be done in such small spaces) with at least 400 watts rms on them. I would also do the Behringer DCX2496 to customize the response in room to get the sound you are after. With their high linear excursion capability you should have no issues running them sealed with an eq to boost the low end. Other woofers to consider would be the TC Sounds TC-1000.

 

[annunaki]

I was checking out TC Sounds website and a pair of the subwoofers (IS-101) on this page: http://www.tcsounds.com/products.htm may work for you. They have solid response down to 20hz and are only 11" cubes. You could do a pair of them and a Behriger EP2500 for about $2,050.00. Add in a DCX 2496 from Behringer and you would (most likely) easily best a DD-12. Not to mention a lifetime warranty.

 

[agarwalro]

You can get a subwoofer for the 20-80Hz range and bolster it with a Buttkicker LFE Kit for the 5-19Hz range.

 

[gus6464]

Why is 16Hz a requirement?

When I heard his /2 he had it at 16hz, then he changed it to 20hz and 24hz. I wanted to know if I could actually tell the difference between the frequencies. I could definitely tell between 16hz and 24hz and I liked 16hz over 20hz. I am not trying to be a pain in the ***, I was just wondering if it was even possible for a sub to dip that low without being that big. If it's not possible I will just go with an SB-12 Plus. Maybe I can beg her to get a PB12-Plus, but it will have to be a lot of begging

 

[GlocksRock]

If I'm not mistaken, the plus/2 has a native 20 hz. tune, I don't think there is a 24 hz. setting. the 16 hz. tune would be achived by plugging just one port, and it can be tuned even lower by plugging the other port. Even if you do get a sub that can hit 16 hz. unless you get the same sub as him, you won't notice the same effect, as the plus/2 is a beast and has the headroom to tune lower and still have lots of output throughout the whole frequency range.

 

[mazersteven]

When I heard his /2 he had it at 16hz, then he changed it to 20hz and 24hz. I wanted to know if I could actually tell the difference between the frequencies. I could definitely tell between 16hz and 24hz and I liked 16hz over 20hz. I am not trying to be a pain in the ***, I was just wondering if it was even possible for a sub to dip that low without being that big. If it's not possible I will just go with an SB-12 Plus. Maybe I can beg her to get a PB12-Plus, but it will have to be a lot of begging

So your saying you heard a difference between 24hz's and 16hz's?

 

[j_garcia]

When I heard his /2 he had it at 16hz, then he changed it to 20hz and 24hz. I wanted to know if I could actually tell the difference between the frequencies. I could definitely tell between 16hz and 24hz and I liked 16hz over 20hz. I am not trying to be a pain in the ***, I was just wondering if it was even possible for a sub to dip that low without being that big. If it's not possible I will just go with an SB-12 Plus. Maybe I can beg her to get a PB12-Plus, but it will have to be a lot of begging

The PB-10 hit 16Hz in my fairly large room, though it was down a few dB vs 18Hz. It is larger than an SB-12 though.

 

[gus6464]

So your saying you heard a difference between 24hz's and 16hz's?

Yeah we did a blind test and I definitely liked the sub at 16hz a lot better. We used some movies from AVS sub forum dvd master list.

 

[audioaddict]

Like you, WAF played a very big part in sub decision. I was looking at the HSU VTF-3, but DW said no She said it had to be smaller that the old one (18x18x24) even if it cost more, so I ended up with a Velodyne SPL 1200r. Velodyne claims down to 22HZ which is damn good for 14x14x16 box. It produces an incredible amount of room presurizing bass for it's size. The room equalization did a nice job of taming my less than ideal viewing room. The SVS SB12 is similar, but the Velodyne has a servo feedback making it extreamly acurate, and the room equalization is built in. To me these features were worth the extra.

 

[mazersteven]

Yeah we did a blind test and I definitely liked the sub at 16hz a lot better. We used some movies from AVS sub forum dvd master list.

Most people can't "hear" below 20hz. So you must be Superman.

 

[j_garcia]

At about 20Hz the tones get hard to hear and more or less just become vibration that you feel more than hear. In the various tunes though, it changes the way the sub behaves so you can hear a difference; he doesn't mean he is listening for 16Hz specifically.

 

[darien87]

My Rythmik 12 hits 16hz and the box is a little over 2 feet tall.

 

[mazersteven]

In the various tunes though, it changes the way the sub behaves so you can hear a difference.

Explain please?

 

[Davemcc]

When I heard his /2 he had it at 16hz, then he changed it to 20hz and 24hz. I wanted to know if I could actually tell the difference between the frequencies. I could definitely tell between 16hz and 24hz and I liked 16hz over 20hz. I am not trying to be a pain in the ***, I was just wondering if it was even possible for a sub to dip that low without being that big. If it's not possible I will just go with an SB-12 Plus. Maybe I can beg her to get a PB12-Plus, but it will have to be a lot of begging

Have you considered that it may not be the actual 16Hz spec that you are reacting to? When you plug the port and change the tuning frequency, it changes the characteristics of the box and limits upper end response. Perhaps it is these other effects of the tune that you are responding to, rather than the specific 16Hz spec of the tune. Source material at 16Hz is rare enough that it's hardly worth worrying about, never mind making it a deciding factor.