Samsung LED DLP question

[TinleyJake]

I was just wondering if anyone currently owns or have looked into any of the Samsung DLP's with the LED bulbs.

When they first came out they were pretty expensive and seemed to have very good reviews. I would think the colored LED's over a standard bulb with spinning color wheel would be an advantage for reliability and added cost of bulbs but has anyone found this technology to lack in performance?

I like my Hitachi RPTV but I can purchase a 56" LED Samsung 1080P brand new for $1300.00. I was originally looking at a Sony SXRD's XBR2 or the 60A2020 but to sacrifice 4" of screen going with the Samsung I can purchase a Blue Ray player for less than the cheaper Sony.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Reorx]

I have looked into them.
I like them. Picture quality, HDMI 1.3, 20k-50k lamp hours, price....
I do not like the viewing angles.

My short list of TV's I have been negotiating with the wife on (in no particular order)...

Samsung HLT 5689 or 5089
Panasonic 58pz700u or 50pz700u
Pioneer PDP-5080

Which models were you looking at?

I have a few friends who have the Sony XBR2, and XBR3 TV's. They are not bad. Many have cloud issues when it comes to dark scene's. AVSforums has a bunch of info over there on it. But overall, they are decent. I just have no faith in Sony products, so will never buy 1 again.

 

[jonnythan]

I was just wondering if anyone currently owns or have looked into any of the Samsung DLP's with the LED bulbs.

When they first came out they were pretty expensive and seemed to have very good reviews. I would think the colored LED's over a standard bulb with spinning color wheel would be an advantage for reliability and added cost of bulbs but has anyone found this technology to lack in performance?

I like my Hitachi RPTV but I can purchase a 56" LED Samsung 1080P brand new for $1300.00. I was originally looking at a Sony SXRD's XBR2 or the 60A2020 but to sacrifice 4" of screen going with the Samsung I can purchase a Blue Ray player for less than the cheaper Sony.

Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks

I thought the LED DLPs merely replaced the standard bulb with a white LED bulb. They still have color wheels and so forth. The advantage is slightly lower power consumption and no need to replace bulbs.

edit: After some research, I am clearly mistaken.

 

[TinleyJake]

Johnnythan: You would think the single white LED would be the way to go since the spinning wheel technology was already in place but I guess Samsung was looking to build an DLP with eliminating the bulb replacement problem and getting rid of the primary moving part for a DLP.

Reorx: When I got this bug to change I really wanted to go with a plasma but now that my two daughters (ages 4 and 6) figured out that they can pause Hannah Montana on the DVR while they go eat lunch followed by a dip in the pool and come back 3 hours later and not miss any of their show, the fear of image burn concerns me even though they have gotten marginally better. If not for that I would jump on a Pioneer Plasma, even their 720P pictures are incredible.

I'm looking at the Sony XBR2, Sony KDS-60A2020, Samsung HL-T6176S (non-LED), the Samsung HL-S5679W (LED) and another I'm considering is the Toshiba 65HM167.

 

[Reorx]

I have a 2yr old.
He turns on the TV, DVD player, and receiver.
Puts in his dvd, and plays it.
And he turns the tv off if he goes to do other things.



Kids are trainable.

From AVSforums:

Originally Posted by JohannFaust
Here are some of my (rather unscientific) observations.
I have a 50" 700U set. It went through a 150 hour break-in period. The picture and brightness controls were set using the HDDVE (confirmed with a colorimeter that light output is around 35 fL, so I'd say the TV is not in the "torch" mode).
I have an HD-A2 player. When its tray is opened, a bright white "HDDVD" logo is displayed in the lower right corner. If a put in a disk that starts with a bright background (i.e. Evangelo's "color-sweeping" tool) there is a retained image of the logo lasting for about 25 - 30 sec.
I am no gamer, but I occasionally play some Sony's free demos, like Gran Turismo HD concept (on a PS3). If after just a couple of minutes I switch to the browser (the latest home page is quite bright) the "ghosts" of lap counters stay in the upper right corner for about 30 - 40 sec.
This is my first plasma so I am not sure if these phenomena qualify as IR. Previously I owned a CRT RPTV - I didn't observe anything similar (with the same Toshiba player and PS3).
BTW, I believe 700/750 models have no pixel shift technology whatsoever.
As I understand it, IR and burn in are quite different. So I am not fear mongering (just reporting what I saw); it is way too early to talk about burn in.

The image retention you are seeing is normal and not to worry about. It's temporary and will occur less often as the panel ages.
All Panasonic plasmas have pixel shifting. We also have amazingly burn-in resilient phosphors. We don't put "anti burn-in protection" features in our user menu, because with proper use, our televisions don't need it!

Also, here is a interesting link about burnin's and pioneer / panasonic plasma's.

 

[avaserfi]

Newer reputably made plasma displays (Sony, Panny, Pioneer etc..) have basically eradicated the concept of burn-in. If you buy a newer plasma I wouldn't worry about it. In one of the AVRants Tom mentioned leaving a newer gen plasma on all night with a static picture (6-8hrs) and came back to have no burn in at all.