Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I can only hate a person in so many ways, you are getting close to complete hate.:D

Those look wonderful by the way, thinking of bi-wiring them?
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
Versus battle

lightweight champion vs. heavyweight champion








KEF Q1 at 1/3rd the price of the MA GS10
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
I can only hate a person in so many ways, you are getting close to complete hate.:D

Those look wonderful by the way, thinking of bi-wiring them?
don't worry, they're not mine. I just wanted to A/B them in my room. :)

But I would if I had 'em.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
test equipment

HK AVR 335 as pre-amp
Rotel RMB1077 as amp
Denon DCD-685 as CD player (analog out)
switching is made by transferring RCA interconnects to the proper input (way faster than transferring speaker plugs - and safer)


 
avliner

avliner

Audioholic Chief
Mike,

Initially I'll second Seths' thoughts though:D:p;)

BTW, where'ss your beloved Pio 696??
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
ok first off, some introduction:
I am very very satisfied with my KEF Q1's.
But I kept thinking about the MA GS10 because it is within striking distance of my budget. I just had to compare them to my KEF's to see how much more of an improvement I can get.

The KEF Q1 SRP during its time was 450-500 USD; the current MA GS10 SRP is 1500 USD. thrice the price.

I figure, if there is at least twice the performance, why not?

I started with the usual Josh Groban "To Where You Are" song. I'd say they were really really close with the MA in the lead. I thought that I couldn't compare these two speakers using a song that didn't show their differences.

I threw in some Mariah Carey, Utada Hikaru, Tears for Fears ... and found a really good album by the Corrs. Talk on Corners. all the songs are like food for the ears, wow ... I kept forgetting to switch speakers because I enjoyed the songs too much.

anyway, the KEF sounded louder and with the voice more forward. the wife said it was like the lead singer was very confident in singing, and shy on the MA's. listening through the entire album, I could now differentiate between the KEF and MA. while the KEF was very very good, the main difference was in a word: noise. the MA played exactly the material in the CD, while the KEF when A/B'ed with the MA sounded "noisy" and "more irritating" (it doesn't mean it's irritating, it's just that the MA wasn't adding anything). I can't believe the KEF's sounded that good, but I guess the money going into the GS10's has to go somewhere right? I'm thinking the MA has less distortion, and a really solid enclosure. knocking at the front baffles, the KEF sounded like knocking on a door, while the MA sounded like knocking on solid wood.

while to me, the difference in SOUND may not warrant thrice the price, but in addition to the better build quality and better finishes. I think the MA's are well worth the price.

while I won't be upgrading the KEF's til I upgrade some other types of equipment that are "closer" to my heart (subwoofers and stuff), when I do get the money, I will be moving the KEF's to my PC and I'll be demoting my polks to surround duty or a tertiary setup. I'm surprised the KEF could do what it did, I feel like I got a bargain on the Kef's.

Conclusion:
I think I'm deaf. deaf to night and day differences between speakers. I was switching with a few seconds in between and I still had a hard time comparing these speakers. how can some people hear NIGHT and DAY differences? Do we hear the same stuff, and to them that difference is NIGHT and DAY? I'm at least happy to have heard what makes the GS10 worth more than my KEF Q1. If I had the space, I'd probably jump to the GS20's.
 
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mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
Mike,

Initially I'll second Seths' thoughts though:D:p;)

BTW, where'ss your beloved Pio 696??
the Pio 696 is currently in the HT upscaling to 1080i. until monday. I have ordered the new Pio 600 that can upscale to 1080p :D

I'll probably move my 696 back to the sony setup or to the bedroom as another CD player.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
packed them up to send them home now ... I needed the space in my bedroom. :( what a sad day.

I can't buy anything right now ... took unexpected financial hits ... the pioneer DVD player I wasn't expecting to buy and two PS3 games.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
So where did you get them from... as you are packing them up to send back, they are truly beautiful looking speakers..

I test drove some Silvers, and they just didn't have the sound I was looking for in the price range I had setup... I really wanted to sample the GS60's but no-one had them around me, and at $4K list they were out of my range, and I really needed large speakers for my 8200+ cu ft room....

The finish on those are outstanding !!!!
 
Pheaton

Pheaton

Audioholic
Hi Mike,
Were those GS10's in the cherry veneer? If so, that is the same finish that we ended up ordering for our GS60's. Nice pictures, thanks for sharing.

Pheaton
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
Hi Mike,
Were those GS10's in the cherry veneer? If so, that is the same finish that we ended up ordering for our GS60's. Nice pictures, thanks for sharing.

Pheaton
yup, they were cherry. if I was to get a pair, I'd be choosing between Piano Gloss Black or Walnut.

if you want nice pictures, check out this site:

GS10
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/3493

GS20
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/3470

RS1
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/32559

RS6
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/32560

RS8
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/32561

BR2
http://www.minhembio.com/produktbilder/129704

If I had to guess, these are photographers who retired and went into the audio hobby :rolleyes:
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
So where did you get them from... as you are packing them up to send back, they are truly beautiful looking speakers..

I test drove some Silvers, and they just didn't have the sound I was looking for in the price range I had setup... I really wanted to sample the GS60's but no-one had them around me, and at $4K list they were out of my range, and I really needed large speakers for my 8200+ cu ft room....

The finish on those are outstanding !!!!
my local dealer lets me borrow MA stuff IF they are already open. the GS60's should be around 3k NET of discount (depending on your relationship with the dealer). if you are gonna pair them with a sub anyway, I think the GS60 is unnecessary, and GS20 would be sufficient with the extra 1k saved should go to the subwoofer budget.
 

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